Pinnacle First Officer ATP Checkride Failures
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From: CRJ - Hell Hole
Negative. As was mentioned, it's the pilot's job to appeal. In this case, there's even steps set out in the (as of now) current CBA. If the FOs that feel they were wronged aren't following those steps, well, it's their fault for that. It's in black and white, and it's been in the contract for a while now.
Do you want the popular pilot to represent a group of terminated pilots or a law firm that understands aviation regulations, FSDO approved training programs and national/state employment law?
It does depend on what kind of day he is having and if he's been flying his helicopter job all night during his rest period and reporting to the checkride fatigued and in a grumpy mood the next morning. THAT IS A PROBLEM. Sucks to be you if thats the case, because, you can do no right. It's over in a matter of minutes and it's, back to bed for him.
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Based on what I remember from upgrade training, they don't do much to help the CAs out either. That's the Pinnacle training dept for ya.....
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Generally a flow is a guaranteed position, once you have the seniority to hold it (flow up). In this case, all Pinnacle pilots have been promised is an expedited interview, and they have to meet all of Delta's hiring requirements. There is no guarantee of a position at Delta.
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From: 737 FO
Generally a flow is a guaranteed position, once you have the seniority to hold it (flow up). In this case, all Pinnacle pilots have been promised is an expedited interview, and they have to meet all of Delta's hiring requirements. There is no guarantee of a position at Delta.
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What are some of these extreme questions and scenarios these folks are getting? Is it a company check airman, a fed, or a dpe?
As an aside, I did my ATP on my own, in a Seminole, with a DPE a long time back. After the maneuvers, the examiner offered to take the controls while I set up the plates. When I took the controls back and added power, I realized the old buzzard had leaned the mixtures just enough to fail BOTH of them. Some of those old b#st#rds were crazy.
As an aside, I did my ATP on my own, in a Seminole, with a DPE a long time back. After the maneuvers, the examiner offered to take the controls while I set up the plates. When I took the controls back and added power, I realized the old buzzard had leaned the mixtures just enough to fail BOTH of them. Some of those old b#st#rds were crazy.
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I know there was one FO who failed for not knowing the captain flows verbatim. The problem is, there are no real "flight standards", and your experience varies drastically on the luck of the draw (i.e. what APD you get). Most are basically fair but the questions and areas of knowledge they get into are more that in some cases, you can know by simply studying the CFM/FOM on your day off.
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