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Loss of hundreds of jobs.
1/2 captains become f/o's that end up at 4 year pay.
The other 1/2 of the captains get a pay cut.

Do everyone in this country a favor and close your doors. Your management has proven that with whatever labor costs they are unable to maintain a profit. It isn't the wages that are the problem. It's management. Pinnacle pilots had it good for a long stretch. Lots of new airplanes. Fast upgrades....but this couldn't last. You got what you could out of it now move on.

Every dog has a life. It's time for this one to be put down.

Easier said than done.

The problem is XJT's contract doesn't have a 70/76-seat rate, and a rate can be determined outside of contract negotiations through binding arbitration. The arbitrator will say, "Oh gee, those silly Pinnacle pilots just voted for a really low 76-seat pay rate, so that must be what the market is currently." And he will grant the company offensively low 76-seat wages because your ignorant pilots just voted for them.

And then XJT pilots will be whipsawed against ASA pilots, who already have a 2nd year 76-seat rate that is WAY higher than Pinnacle's new top-end rate.

And the cycle continues.

Thanks, guys. Your lack of foresight might become apparent to you when you're sitting in XJT new hire class making a fraction of what you should have been.

Boo hoo cry me a river. Sacrifice myself, my family's livelihood.. all because your worried that it might affect you. Fix your own house, don't complain to me. You all have done nothing, nothing, I'll say it again NOTHING to support us.

Don't put us all in that boat. At least 900 of us have and will vote no to this. The others are very easily duped, gullible, have limited foresight, can't think for themselves, and eat every piece of garbage placed in front of them by the union and management. They will claim that it is better than no job and that they have to feed their families. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

No Es tu perro mijo

Sounds to me you are telling me how to vote because of your lack of foresight.

Remember after the Mesaba buyout, when Pinnacle wanted to picket outside HQs against management, and Mesaba and Colgan committees sent out emails saying they would not be with Pinnacle on the picket, because they don't believe it's the right thing to do, and they are giving management more time?? Yeah, good times. So much for "support" from fellow brothers.

And you remember that one time in band camp when you stuck that flute up your............

In what respect did I have a lack of foresight? And I never told you how to vote; I only suggested the ignorance of voting yes.

The fact that XJT didn't have the foresight for 76-seat rates.

Mesaba didn't have 76 seat aircraft but we made damn sure those rates were in the contract we signed prior to this merger circus.

ASA had the foresight, why does it come down to another carrier to help you with an oversight in your glorious contract.

XJT and ASA pilots wouldn't do squat to help Pinnacle pilots out. I guarantee most of you guys would be very happy if we voted ourselves out of business.