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Bucking Bar 01-17-2013 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1332424)
What specific DL qualifications are listed in the Bridge Agreement? Isn't it up to DL to establish their qualification minimums? Can't DL change them at will?

Now you know about the Bridge Agreement?

Are you just making me chase my tail?

shiznit 01-17-2013 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1332333)
Still missing the point. DL mins haven't changed. The "vault letter" (if it states what is purported via PCL insiders) exempts a portion of those minimums while there are 15,000 other people vying for the job.

1. If DAL changes the hiring criteria then none of this matters.

2. If DAL does not change published hiring criteria and the "vault letter" is a hoax, then none of this matters.

If DAL does not change published hiring criteria and the "vault letter" does exist, then a couple of options:

3. If they hire with a different degree criterion, DAL pilots who notice will be peeved.

4. If they do not hire with a reduced degree criterion, the vault letter becomes a bait-and-switch perpetrated against non-degreed pilots to "buy" their votes to approve of the amended agreement. Checkmate DAL management.

Ugly, but this is a fairly effective (albeit ruthless) group of managers as it relates to DCI flying.

Bucking Bar 01-17-2013 06:39 AM

What the hell is a "vault letter" ? Why is it named that?

I publish my sources. Someone publish this letter, or else I say it does not exist.

TeddyKGB 01-17-2013 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1332337)
I'm not. The bridge agreement holds 9E pilots to published DL qualification minimums. The letter exempts them from that.

If they move DL qualification minimums to what this letter is, then it is fine. A contract is a contract, as they say.

So where this so called valut letter? Just curious who started the myth and whether or not it's credible. Seems like it's just conspiracy theory for now.

Kellwolf 01-17-2013 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1332532)
So where this so called valut letter? Just curious who started the myth and whether or not it's credible. Seems like it's just conspiracy theory for now.

Senior Pinnacle guys without a degree that are hoping would be my guess. I could see a few of those guys down in MEM starting this up either a) just rile people up b) to get people to vote "yes" that otherwise wouldn't or c) put a bee in someone's ear to make it actually happen so they don't get stuck.

dashdriver22 01-17-2013 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1332532)
So where this so called valut letter? Just curious who started the myth and whether or not it's credible. Seems like it's just conspiracy theory for now.


T.W. during a road show told me to my face about the "vault" letter. Apparently signed from the director of flight ops from Delta. He said it couldn't be published because of the uproar it may cause.

legend 01-17-2013 07:00 AM

Imapilot,

I understand what your saying about those that get a break when you didnt thats fair. However to compare us to the Gulfstream image is not. There was a small percentage that was hired maybe 10% not sure exactly but certainly not the majority. That being said, everyone I have flown with from Gulfstream was a good pilot. You see there you go generalizing again!

Bucking Bar 01-17-2013 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by dashdriver22 (Post 1332546)
T.W. during a road show told me to my face about the "vault" letter. Apparently signed from the director of flight ops from Delta. He said it couldn't be published because of the uproar it may cause.

How operative is a secret agreement?

Do you trust T.W. ? I do not.

TeddyKGB 01-17-2013 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1332566)
How operative is a secret agreement?

Do you trust T.W. ? I do not.

I always trusted TW and think he is a stand up guy. I still say the vault letter is just conspiracy theory. I'm sure we will find out soon enough now that the cat is out of the bag.

Bucking Bar 01-17-2013 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1332568)
I always trusted TW and think he is a stand up guy. I still say the vault letter is just conspiracy theory. I'm sure we will find out soon enough now that the cat is out of the bag.

If he is such a stand up guy, why did he make an end run around the Delta MEC? Why did he screw the other DCI pilots? After all, they supported him. Here is a photo of the ASA MEC Chair walking Wychor's line.

http://avstop.com/october_2012/img1B3.jpg

The ASA pilots supported Pinnacle.

Wonder how he feels about that now ?



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