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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1332503)

Now you know about the Bridge Agreement?

Are you just making me chase my tail?

Just asking a question. Thanks for taking the time to not answer it.

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1332527)

What the hell is a "vault letter" ? Why is it named that?

I publish my sources. Someone publish this letter, or else I say it does not exist.

Are you trying to make someone chase their tail? ;)

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Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1332884)

Just asking a question. Thanks for taking the time to not answer it.

I did answer your question. Posted the text of the agreement in the other thread.

The vault letter is under lock and key, you can only see it under controlled circumstances.

Bucking Bar I am not trying to be sarcastic but can you explain the frustration you have with the SSP in simple terms.

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Originally Posted by Will (Post 1332932)

Bucking Bar I am not trying to be sarcastic but can you explain the frustration you have with the SSP in simple terms.

What is an "SSP" ?

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1332661)

Here you go.(1) Pinnacle secured "committed" aircraft from the limited number available for DCI carriers.
(2) They did this through the use of pay cuts
(3) To remain competitive it is likely that the other DCI carriers will be forced into concessionary bargaining.

BS to all 3 counts Bar!!

(1) Good for 9E for getting the next batch of CRJ 900's. After the crap sandwich that just got shoved down their throats thats at least a little bit of a consolation prize for them. If ASA pilots are upset that the next lot of 900's is going to 9E instead of them then that is nothing more than sour grapes on their part.

(2) If you think that the 9E pilots agreed to pay cuts in order to get 900's and a bridge agreement than you have no clue what you are talking about. The pay cuts were a result of their company being in bankruptch.

(3) The 9E contract that was just signed is still an industry average contract. Not saying it's the best but it isn't the worst in the DCI game. There are more guilty airlines in the race to the bottom claim you make so go grip at them and not 9E.

Bar, it's easy for you to say from the outside looking in that the 9E pilot group should have fallen on their swords and taken one for the good of the DCI rat race. I'm not sure how long you have been at Delta but if you have been around a while you took much much larger paycuts yourself and kissed your pension goodbye so it's pretty hypocritical of yourself make such claims about TW screwing over ASA and the "DCI rat race to the bottom"

I am surprised at the anger/frustration generated over whether someone has a college degree or not.

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Originally Posted by Fr8tdog (Post 1332318)

I may not have a college degree, but I sure as hell haven't landed on a taxi way in ATL!:rolleyes: how about coming up short in TLH (purple cargo 727 carrier) or running a 3 holer off the end of the runway in the Philippines yelling come on brakes, come on brakes, while the auto brakes where included in a deferral. I guess a 4 yr degree helped those pilots! Yup a college edgumecation defines what kind of aviator that airman will be.

It has little to do with stick and rudder skills. It's more about motivation, dedication, leadership, & desire to succeed. Those that are driven to get the degree show more motivation then those who don't. They show that they possess the ability to learn, listen, & follow instructions. They can excel in areas outside of the flight deck.

As to your jabs at those individuals involved in unfortunate situations, you may want to tread lightly. Karma can be a mean beast. Try to show a little class.

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1332938)

Bar, it's easy for you to say from the outside looking in that the 9E pilot group should have fallen on their swords and taken one for the good of the DCI rat race. I'm not sure how long you have been at Delta but if you have been around a while you took much much larger paycuts yourself and kissed your pension goodbye so it's pretty hypocritical of yourself make such claims about TW screwing over ASA and the "DCI rat race to the bottom"

That was before his time.