Originally Posted by kingairfun (Post 1330373)

Once Pinnacle furloughs most of the company, there won't be many to flow? Or does it include furloughees? How many of the senior Pinnacle Captains that will be left will be willing to move on?

Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 1330427)

When I was at Colgan almost everyone had a degree. Why are we acting like everyone from Pinnacle won't have a degree? My guess is less than 10% don't have a degree.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1330570)

Your guess would be wrong. Pinnacle used to fill classes with all 250 hours Gulfrstream pilots with no degree. These pilots as a whole were the bottom of the barrel. More than half the Pinnacle pilots probably do not have degrees

Originally Posted by MEMbrain (Post 1330484)

I heard they are grandfathered in. IOW as long as you are on the Pinnacle property on the date of the deal, you get to flow regardless of what happens to Pinnacle in the future, or whenever Delta hires again.

Originally Posted by bucking bar (Post 1330617)

like the comair and the delta pilots, pinnacle pilots voted yes.

After management gets their "yes" vote, they put away the wine and roses. The honeymoon is now officially over.

It is going to be interesting to see the air force academy captains dealing with some of their new hire fo's who decided against pursuing an education beyond high school and who have absolutely no idea of how the air force runs a flight deck.

xj & co. Will be amazed when the approach briefing begins 1.5 hours prior to descent (4 hours if the destination is quito, bogota, or tegucigalpa ) ... Not that that's a bad thing.

i might bid over to the er just to watch the show. :)

Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1330392)

College??? I’m all for it. One can’t be to educated.


Correct me if I’m wrong. During airline expansions during the ‘80s many airlines dropped the college requirement. Many individuals were hired without the degree during this period. I’m sure many of them have gotten their command too without a four year degree. I know of two colleagues with with the majors that don’t have maybe more than 1 month of college let alone any degrees either. Although one was a bartender at local saloon. I guess you can say he had a degree in mixicology. I think that qualifies as a degree. The performed as if he were a chemical engineer with great precision as he prepared mixed drinks with formulae of complicated and dangerous ingredients to produce such concoctions to meet society’s need.


Should they, along with their non college peers, be treated as pariahs?


Why I’m sure if the US Government thought it important enough, then Title 14 Part 61 would be amended to require a college degree to act as pilot in command of an aircraft requiring an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate.


Perhaps those who want make the club restricted, can start a petition. I personally won’t sign it. But it’s always an option for those who feel that strongly about the college issue, and vehemently want to keep, you know, those people from joining the club.


Now where did I put my cognac?

Originally Posted by Klsytakesit (Post 1330378)

give it a rest copilot....if delta wants to hire a damn fine pilot....it is their choice..they own the place....i am a capt at alaska and dont even have ged.....the worst pilots I have flown with are the und wannabees....the best are just pilots....give it a rest punk.....

Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1330652)

Where did you get your education?

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1330617)

Like the Comair and the Delta pilots, Pinnacle pilots voted yes.

After management gets their "yes" vote, they put away the wine and roses. The honeymoon is now officially over.

It is going to be interesting to see the Air Force Academy Captains dealing with some of their new hire FO's who decided against pursuing an education beyond high school and who have absolutely no idea of how the Air Force runs a flight deck.

XJ & Co. will be amazed when the approach briefing begins 1.5 hours prior to descent (4 hours if the destination is Quito, Bogota, or Tegucigalpa ) ... not that that's a bad thing.

I might bid over to the ER just to watch the show. :)