How do you think the interviews will go for those who don't have college degrees?

He said it was a requirement for most if the airlines brief history. I was hired at the very beginning at compass and I can tell you that a college degree was NOT required from class 2 on. The ATA guys as well as a few others from the beginning did not have college degrees.

Is it a big deal? Personally It all depends on the individual I have flown with guys that did not have the degrees and they were good sticks. The issue at hand is that Delta requires it and a few we're able to flow without it... Just the facts!

The real issue is another airline MEC going behind the backs of Delta's MEC to negotiate directly with the company. This is a serious issue and for ALPA to allow this is just another example of how out of touch ALPA and their lawyers are.

Hopefully not well, but we shouldn't be having to have this conversation.

I think the four year degree has been required since sometime in 2009, so for the first 2 years maybe it wasn't required. But for "most" of the airlines history now, one has been required. And of the ATA guys, I'd bet more than half of the 20 or so ATA pilots have one. I can think of a couple Illinois grads as well as Purdue gradsand one retired AF pilot. They do issue degrees in places other than Grand Forks! ;)

Not to create a $hit storm here, but why is that you wish such ill of those and perhaps your fellow airmen and colleageus, who meet the qualficatons of both regulations and this secret "Skull and Crossbones" vaulted letter?

Because they are sidestepping the requirements all other applicants need to have...and on top of that most have been passed over by other carriers a number of times for a reason.

Perhaps they won't pass the interview- but the fact that they are getting an interview when they wouldn't qualify otherwise is not good. This whole deal stinks from many different angles.

Fair enough... at the end of the day a college degree a pilot does not make.

It's what they have in their hearts and soul, is what makes the airman.

It's how they've acquired their flying experience is an important asset they will bring to any company be it DAL, UAL, or AA, as well as the cockpit and fellow colleagues.

Its their legacy they will impart to new first officers too.

IMHO, with some 35+ years experience with both US and foreign carriers, a 4 year degree a senior aircraft commander does not make. Its merely a tick in the company's options of requirements box.

Safe flight... capt

It doesn't, but that is what DL requires, and I believe a college education helps to create a more well rounded individual. DL obviously holds that to be true as well. But, the point is this is sidestepping what is required to be hired by DL.

Respectfully, I've flown with a number of those that waiving this will empower... the legacy they imparted on myself by high number of these individuals is exactly how not to be an aircraft commander.

Like I said, hopefully the interview will do it's job and weed them out appropriately.

From what people have posted above, Compass had some flowthroughs go to Delta without a college degree? So it sounds like 9E may get a similar deal. I disagree with it, IMO, a pilot should be qualified by at least meeting the published minimums.

Once Pinnacle furloughs most of the company, there won't be many to flow? Or does it include furloughees? How many of the senior Pinnacle Captains that will be left will be willing to move on?