GED = Good Enough for Delta
01-15-2013 | 08:12 AM
#71
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01-15-2013 | 08:26 AM
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If he thinks the plural of formula is formulae, so be it.
01-15-2013 | 08:38 AM
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
01-15-2013 | 09:00 AM
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Why do you guys wait until short final (4hrs. out) to begin the approach briefing? On the 777, we start in the briefing room, 17 hours prior to touchdown. It goes something like this:
"Man, I really need a landing, I haven't had one in 6 weeks and I expire next week. So...what's the weather doing over there? And which runway will they be using, and what arrival should we use and...has anyone been in there before? Nobody? Sh!t..."
So you spend the last 3 hours loading the FMS, memorizing the taxi diagram, and the arrival fixes, and then briefing it up...and then in the final 10 minutes, they switch runways, and arrivals, and oh yeah, they are screaming descent clearances at you in Chinese, but fast, and the altimitry is in meters, and you have to use a converter paper, and you've been up all night because it was too rough to sleep on your breaks. Other than that, there's nothing to it.
Now, if we are coming into ATL on the other hand, it's more like, "Wake me up at the marker, and then put the gear down."
"Man, I really need a landing, I haven't had one in 6 weeks and I expire next week. So...what's the weather doing over there? And which runway will they be using, and what arrival should we use and...has anyone been in there before? Nobody? Sh!t..."
So you spend the last 3 hours loading the FMS, memorizing the taxi diagram, and the arrival fixes, and then briefing it up...and then in the final 10 minutes, they switch runways, and arrivals, and oh yeah, they are screaming descent clearances at you in Chinese, but fast, and the altimitry is in meters, and you have to use a converter paper, and you've been up all night because it was too rough to sleep on your breaks. Other than that, there's nothing to it.
Now, if we are coming into ATL on the other hand, it's more like, "Wake me up at the marker, and then put the gear down."
01-15-2013 | 09:02 AM
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01-15-2013 | 09:22 AM
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I'd also like to know that. We're getting more of these preferential deals than I can keep track of.
Maybe it would be easier to ask if there's anybody out there who doesn't have some special claim on a slot at Delta.
Seems like the first few years of new hire classes are already filled.
Maybe it would be easier to ask if there's anybody out there who doesn't have some special claim on a slot at Delta.
Seems like the first few years of new hire classes are already filled.
01-15-2013 | 10:01 AM
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I'm not sure why we are all bent out of shape over this deal. What if Delta decided to drop the degree from the requirements for everybody? Do they need DALPA to sign off on that? Would we all be up in arms over Delta hiring pilots with no degrees at that point?
I know plenty of guys that do not have a degree that would be great pilots to have on our seniority list. I also know just as many guys with degrees that I would question the sanity of any interview panel that hired them. All of these PNCL guys without degrees could knock out an online degree in the next 12 months just to check the box if they needed to, but would that make them a better Delta pilot?
It seems to me that this is more about feeling shafted that some of us had to get degrees and take risks in our careers to get to Delta, now there will be some that get in without doing what we had to do. I'm almost 100% certain that if theyse guys have to go through the same interview "process" that we did, the one's who we don't want won't get in, with or without a degree.
I know plenty of guys that do not have a degree that would be great pilots to have on our seniority list. I also know just as many guys with degrees that I would question the sanity of any interview panel that hired them. All of these PNCL guys without degrees could knock out an online degree in the next 12 months just to check the box if they needed to, but would that make them a better Delta pilot?
It seems to me that this is more about feeling shafted that some of us had to get degrees and take risks in our careers to get to Delta, now there will be some that get in without doing what we had to do. I'm almost 100% certain that if theyse guys have to go through the same interview "process" that we did, the one's who we don't want won't get in, with or without a degree.
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