Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Regional (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/)
-   -   Pncl ta passed (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/72368-pncl-ta-passed.html)

SkyBird17 01-15-2013 10:08 PM



TA Passed = No Self worth

Criticize me for throwing stones, I speak with the experience of having been furloughed, and I've left a miserable and failing regional for another regional.
We barely could make the most minimal of ends meet for nearly 2 years (year 1 pay and recovering from year 1 pay).
I know how hard it is. With some terrible life circumstances along the way. Thrashed our savings, and did damage to credit, and had serious medical issues put off (family) because of lack of health care coverage.

I would have voted this POS TA down at the cost of my job and I'm the sole source in my family. Me, wife, kid, 2 cats.

Screw whether the other regional or the majors hiring or not. If you can't go get a job outside aviation (whether you have no other skill set, or you're too lazy too, you're a fool and shouldn't be doing this job.)


Also, I have no degree, and I have my own small business totally unrelated to aviation that I nurtured so as to have a backup plan. Basically, I'm not uber qualified with a degree (or flight training) my parents paid for. I've clawed my way through it all on my own. So unless you pulled yourself up by the bootstraps from day one, I've got no sympathy for F'ing up things for other people because "you have no choice".

Bottom line, no backup plan = stupidity.
Voting yes on this TA = no dignity.

Make better choices in life, and be willing to accept the consequences when your decisions are bad. This business is unforgiving, and if you don't have a backup plan, or are not prepared for the worst, you're a fool.
A man with 2 cats = no dignity
+1 lmao! That right there is funny, I don't care who ya are!

swamp 01-16-2013 02:16 AM


Originally Posted by Av8rking (Post 1331369)
What an uneducated quote! Thank you personally for moving the regional industry backwards about 10 years! I promise no one wanted your flying! Based upon what you said, you must be new! If not, you are pathetic. Where do you think you will be 3 or 5 years from now?! At mainline rocking $100 plus per hour?!?!? Good luck with that. You have forever help contribute to the demise of our industry!

Well I'm not new Internet forum worm, and I promise you would never call me pathetic to my face.... We are CONTRACT pilots, I promise if it were not for pinnacle - surejet or skypest would have been next, which they will be now.... Stop thinking your sucky airline is some kind of stand alone powerhouse... Again understand your contract carrier has 0 leverage in this industry, it's just really sad how many people are learning this NOW...

Captain Tony 01-16-2013 02:27 AM

Thanks for nothing Pinnacle. Thanks for rear ending all of us in the segment of the industry that can least afford it. Thanks for taking food out of my kids mouths just so you can hang on a few months longer. Don't ask me for any favors.

Will 01-16-2013 02:49 AM

Captain Tony, all you have to do is vote No when it's your turn. The PCL pilots voted not to fall on our sword to protect You. Get over it.

JamesNoBrakes 01-16-2013 03:33 AM

What would life be like today if everyone who ever stood up for anything or made a significant change decided instead: "oh well, that's life and it's not fair"? One thing that has become clear to me in life is that you CAN make a change, and sometimes you have to be creative and unique in how you institute that change (union voting is not the only way, may not even be effective), but you can change a company or situation for the better. It's not as hard as one thinks.

vilcas 01-16-2013 03:34 AM

Voting this TA down would have helped only the regionals who received pinnacles 900s. Their cost structure would still be attacked by Delta. Pinnacle voting yes meant slower upgrades for some of you. Why should pinnacle pilots go to the street so another regional can grow?

PCLCREW 01-16-2013 03:47 AM


Voting this TA down would have helped only the regionals who received pinnacles 900s. Their cost structure would still be attacked by Delta. Pinnacle voting yes meant slower upgrades for some of you. Why should pinnacle pilots go to the street so another regional can grow?
A minimum of 1000 Pinnacle pilots will go to the street.

vilcas 01-16-2013 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1331430)
A minimum of 1000 Pinnacle pilots will go to the street.

Based on what projection. This type of inflammatory statement is worthless. Their is no logical form of analysis that leads to 1000 furloughs. I wouldn't be surprised if their are none.

PCLCREW 01-16-2013 04:11 AM



Originally Posted by PCLCREW (Post 1331430)
A minimum of 1000 Pinnacle pilots will go to the street.

Based on what projection. This type of inflammatory statement is worthless. Their is no logical form of analysis that leads to 1000 furloughs. I wouldn't be surprised if their are none.
Based on the company and union projections. You know the union that all you guys have so much faith in.
Loss of 100 aircraft you do the math genius.

GlobeTreker 01-16-2013 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by Will (Post 1331417)
Captain Tony, all you have to do is vote No when it's your turn. The PCL pilots voted not to fall on our sword to protect You. Get over it.

Protect us? You were already screwed. You're still screwed and you willingly took the rest of the industry down with you. Hey Gojet guys! There is a new bottom feeder in town. Enjoy your new contract. You guys deserve it.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:11 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands