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Originally Posted by Free Flyer
(Post 1331072)
Sorry to read this information. As I see it Pinnacle has now pay rate "matched" themselves to be competitive for all of the American flying that Republic/Shuttle America is bidding for at this time.
I never like to see anyone associated with ALPA or any other airline union get threatened to take a pay cut or be done away with while the CEO's and management make off with loads of cash. When is it our time to stand up and say enough is enough? If you look at my position underneath my avatar you'll know how I voted on our CAL/United TA. It didn't go the way I wanted, but I'm not going to have a hissy fit about it. As far as the Pinnacle TA, it's hard to say what would you do if it happened to you. If I was at a regional it seems as though it'd be a never ending cycle of chasing the quick upgrade just to get out of the regionals and into a major. Let me give you this one food for thought. Please look at yourself and respect yourself for all of the money spent on education, time spent away from loved ones, and effort that you have poured into your careers. Keep that fighting spirit and PLEASE bring it to the majors with you when we all start hiring heavily within a year or two. I want to stand side by side with fellow pilots that want to bring this career back to where it belongs! I don't intend for this to be a judgmental post. Keep your heads up PNCL pilots as it will get better, it's the only direction for it to turn. We won't be allowed to fly for other carriers........unless we are eventually divested by Delta. |
Originally Posted by Lone Palm
(Post 1331090)
We won't be allowed to fly for other carriers........unless we are eventually divested by Delta.
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Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 1331091)
Incorrect they specifically said we could fly for other carriers. Realistic? Nope.
True, the union FAQ (which I didn't see as entirely truthful on this particular question) stated we could but it is highly unlikely. I can't recall a time when a wholly owned carrier successfully won a bid to fly for another carrier. |
Originally Posted by paxhauler85
(Post 1330778)
FWIW, still higher than Republic and Mesa. Rates nearly mirror the ASA CA rates through year 8. CA rates are .50-.75 below industry average. Capped at year 12 which is 1.20 below industry average.
FO: rates now $25 (industry standard), 33 (1.15 below industry standard), 37 (.05 below industry standard) , and 38.50 (.20 below). Capped at that point. Higher than GJ, Mesa, RP and essentially on par with Eagle. Vacation got destroyed as well. Most anyone gets this year or next is 2 weeks. |
Im just shy of 7 years, FO at ASA and I'm at 45.57/hr, not much but probably better than most regionals.
edit: Im on the 700 (pays a little more per hour than the 200) |
Originally Posted by kilofoxtrot
(Post 1331108)
Um?? No, Not correct ASA(Express Jet) 200 FO 23hr 1st year 36.13 2nd 38.58 3rd 39.79 4th 41.01 5th 42.29 6th 43.59 7th
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Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 1331091)
Incorrect they specifically said we could fly for other carriers. Realistic? Nope.
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Only a couple years ago, 99% Pinnacle pilots voted to strike. This speaks volumes for all of us.
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Originally Posted by TopNotch
(Post 1331176)
Only a couple years ago, 99% Pinnacle pilots voted to strike. This speaks volumes for all of us.
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Originally Posted by TopNotch
(Post 1331176)
Only a couple years ago, 99% Pinnacle pilots voted to strike. This speaks volumes for all of us.
Management takes note of this behavior and it propagates itself over and over and over...... |
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