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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 1330984)
Because everyone likes to sling the mud on us for voting this in based how how they think it will affect them. The alternative for us would have been no job at all or starting over at another regional at less pay, both of which are worse than eating this **** sandwich IMO. No one expects their seniority and pay to transfer to another company...this is the airline industry after all.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 1330987)
A wind-down would have taken at least 12 months. 65% of the pilot group will be furloughed (or gone - attrition) within the next 12-24 months. It seems no matter which way this TA went, the die is already cast for 65% of the pilots.
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Pinnacle pilots ratify agreement
Pinnacle Airlines pilots ratify new labor agreement | LeveragedLoan.com
the company said the new agreement’s changes, which covers pilot pay, retirement, work rules and benefits, will become effective when concessions are implemented for the airline’s other labor groups and non-union employees.” Pinnacle Airlines pilots ratify new labor agreement | LeveragedLoan.com |
Already another thread with 6000+ views and 60+ responses.
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 1330984)
Because everyone likes to sling the mud on us for voting this in based how how they think it will affect them. The alternative for us would have been no job at all or starting over at another regional at less pay, both of which are worse than eating this **** sandwich IMO. No one expects their seniority and pay to transfer to another company...this is the airline industry after all.
This is not an alternative its a delay... why oh why do you guys think this saved your job.. IT DIDNT! 65% of the pilots are gone from this company.. this seems to be forgotten in all of our mighty FOs posts. |
Well PCLCREW a lot can happen in 2 years. Believing it will be all good would be just as foolish as beleiving it will be all bad. I have been here for 15+ years, my experience in the industry leads me to believe my statement is correct.
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Originally Posted by Will
(Post 1331059)
Well PCLCREW a lot can happen in 2 years. Believing it will be all good would be just as foolish as beleiving it will be all bad. I have been here for 15+ years, my experience in the industry leads me to believe my statement is correct.
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Originally Posted by PCLCREW
(Post 1331038)
In about a year and half if you want to keep flying you are going to be on the bottom of another regionals list starting over.
This is not an alternative its a delay... why oh why do you guys think this saved your job.. IT DIDNT! 65% of the pilots are gone from this company.. this seems to be forgotten in all of our mighty FOs posts. |
Sorry to read this information. As I see it Pinnacle has now pay rate "matched" themselves to be competitive for all of the American flying that Republic/Shuttle America is bidding for at this time.
I never like to see anyone associated with ALPA or any other airline union get threatened to take a pay cut or be done away with while the CEO's and management make off with loads of cash. When is it our time to stand up and say enough is enough? If you look at my position underneath my avatar you'll know how I voted on our CAL/United TA. It didn't go the way I wanted, but I'm not going to have a hissy fit about it. As far as the Pinnacle TA, it's hard to say what would you do if it happened to you. If I was at a regional it seems as though it'd be a never ending cycle of chasing the quick upgrade just to get out of the regionals and into a major. Let me give you this one food for thought. Please look at yourself and respect yourself for all of the money spent on education, time spent away from loved ones, and effort that you have poured into your careers. Keep that fighting spirit and PLEASE bring it to the majors with you when we all start hiring heavily within a year or two. I want to stand side by side with fellow pilots that want to bring this career back to where it belongs! I don't intend for this to be a judgmental post. Keep your heads up PNCL pilots as it will get better, it's the only direction for it to turn. |
What's the point of ALPA at regionals if you doing contract feed gives no leverage.
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