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Piedmonster 01-15-2013 07:10 PM

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Piedmonster 01-15-2013 07:10 PM

TA Passed = No Self worth

Criticize me for throwing stones, I speak with the experience of having been furloughed, and I've left a miserable and failing regional for another regional.
We barely could make the most minimal of ends meet for nearly 2 years (year 1 pay and recovering from year 1 pay).
I know how hard it is. With some terrible life circumstances along the way. Thrashed our savings, and did damage to credit, and had serious medical issues put off (family) because of lack of health care coverage.

I would have voted this POS TA down at the cost of my job and I'm the sole source in my family. Me, wife, kid, 2 cats.

Screw whether the other regional or the majors hiring or not. If you can't go get a job outside aviation (whether you have no other skill set, or you're too lazy too, you're a fool and shouldn't be doing this job.)


Also, I have no degree, and I have my own small business totally unrelated to aviation that I nurtured so as to have a backup plan. Basically, I'm not uber qualified with a degree (or flight training) my parents paid for. I've clawed my way through it all on my own. So unless you pulled yourself up by the bootstraps from day one, I've got no sympathy for F'ing up things for other people because "you have no choice".

Bottom line, no backup plan = stupidity.
Voting yes on this TA = no dignity.

Make better choices in life, and be willing to accept the consequences when your decisions are bad. This business is unforgiving, and if you don't have a backup plan, or are not prepared for the worst, you're a fool.

IFLYACRJ 01-15-2013 07:12 PM

Thanks Pinnacle, Thank You
Nicely done, restarting the race to the bottom all over again
This just set the regional airline industry back 15-20 years.

What do you do for an encore?

Slats 01-15-2013 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1331125)
On the CA side.

Most captains are being displaced back to FO's so, I think the FO rate should be the focus being that year 2 at OO pays more than 9E FO top out.

texaspilot76 01-15-2013 07:44 PM

You all should have voted no on the TA and burn the place down. You have all dealt a blow to the negotiations of all your peers at other companies. The regionals are no place for an airline career. It amazes me how so many embrace it like its all they've got.

SmitteyB 01-15-2013 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 1331325)
You all should have voted no on the TA and burn the place down. You have all dealt a blow to the negotiations of all your peers at other companies. The regionals are no place for an airline career. It amazes me how so many embrace it like its all they've got.

Removed. Heat of the moment response.

texaspilot76 01-15-2013 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1331328)
I would love to see you vote no that results in a wind down of PSA. You wouldn't do it.

Wanna bet? I wouldnt do it. I'm definitely not staying there. I certainly could find another job quick. I could leave there now, but I'm waiting for my career airline to begin hiring. I could and would go work somewhere else if it were a necessity. If they were gonna do to us what they're doing to yall, I'd vote it down in a heartbeat, then go work somewhere else.

Farmlover 01-15-2013 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by IFLYACRJ (Post 1331295)
Thanks Pinnacle, Thank You
Nicely done, restarting the race to the bottom all over again
This just set the regional airline industry back 15-20 years.

What do you do for an encore?

Anytime. I know you wanted our flying. At least I have a job for now

shimmydamp 01-15-2013 09:02 PM


TA Passed = No Self worth

Criticize me for throwing stones, I speak with the experience of having been furloughed, and I've left a miserable and failing regional for another regional.
We barely could make the most minimal of ends meet for nearly 2 years (year 1 pay and recovering from year 1 pay).
I know how hard it is. With some terrible life circumstances along the way. Thrashed our savings, and did damage to credit, and had serious medical issues put off (family) because of lack of health care coverage.

I would have voted this POS TA down at the cost of my job and I'm the sole source in my family. Me, wife, kid, 2 cats.

Screw whether the other regional or the majors hiring or not. If you can't go get a job outside aviation (whether you have no other skill set, or you're too lazy too, you're a fool and shouldn't be doing this job.)


Also, I have no degree, and I have my own small business totally unrelated to aviation that I nurtured so as to have a backup plan. Basically, I'm not uber qualified with a degree (or flight training) my parents paid for. I've clawed my way through it all on my own. So unless you pulled yourself up by the bootstraps from day one, I've got no sympathy for F'ing up things for other people because "you have no choice".

Bottom line, no backup plan = stupidity.
Voting yes on this TA = no dignity.

Make better choices in life, and be willing to accept the consequences when your decisions are bad. This business is unforgiving, and if you don't have a backup plan, or are not prepared for the worst, you're a fool.
A man with 2 cats = no dignity

Av8rking 01-15-2013 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 1331351)
Anytime. I know you wanted our flying. At least I have a job for now

What an uneducated quote! Thank you personally for moving the regional industry backwards about 10 years! I promise no one wanted your flying! Based upon what you said, you must be new! If not, you are pathetic. Where do you think you will be 3 or 5 years from now?! At mainline rocking $100 plus per hour?!?!? Good luck with that. You have forever help contribute to the demise of our industry!


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