Disclosing Checkride Busts
02-11-2013 | 06:07 AM
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Multiple checkride busts may raise an eyebrow at your first 121 gig. They don't want to spend thousands of $$$'s and hours of precious sim time only for you to flunk out of training. I think most regionals will turn a blind eye to 1 or 2 busts, but 3 or more may take some explaining.
Once you have a few years of uneventful 121 checking events though, I doubt the majors care if you screwed up a lazy 8 on your commerical.
I personally think it's good for a pilot to fail a checkride. Those that have busted Know what a humbling experience it is and aren't so cocky or complacent the next time they climb into the cockpit.
Once you have a few years of uneventful 121 checking events though, I doubt the majors care if you screwed up a lazy 8 on your commerical.
I personally think it's good for a pilot to fail a checkride. Those that have busted Know what a humbling experience it is and aren't so cocky or complacent the next time they climb into the cockpit.
02-11-2013 | 07:53 AM
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And your part 121 or 135 records if you worked for that company in the last 5 years. Dont want to be screwed by a dirt bag employer who didnt tell you about a PC bust. I was a victim of being let go from an airline about this issue. There is a lot of misinformation and arrogance on this post, so if you have a question about this please pm me.
02-11-2013 | 11:49 AM
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So too many checkride busts are a career killer due in part to 3407. Thats understandable seeing how the media who knows everything runs wild with that. What really surprises me is how many people I know who have washed out of a formal 121 program and have gone on with little or no issue to find employment at other 121's. Are airlines not worried about some guy with a washout on his record burning a whole in the ground and the media not running wild with that?? "Pilot who wasn't good enough to fly at XYZ airline, was flying airplane for ABC Airline" Wouldn't one assume given the implications of that headline that it would be far more difficult to get a job with awashout rather than a couple busts working on their private ticket?
02-11-2013 | 12:34 PM
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Key word here is "wash out". Despite what many believe, I know pleanty of guys with a 121 failure that went on to other 121 gigs without a problem. I could be wrong, but im pretty sure it just takes time. If you bust something in training or recurrent, come back and pass, and then go years at said airline without an issue, im sure a future employer would see that and assume you just had a bad time. If you cant overcome it and get fired....that's a different story. Again, just my opinion.
02-11-2013 | 12:38 PM
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You guys need to read the application . Does it say have you ever failed any check rides , stage checks or failed to complete training .
Every app is different. Its impossible to answer that question without more info .
That being said DO NOT panic that its a career ender . Honesty is always the best policy when answering application questions though . A company will accept a guy/gal with a slip up but wont tolerate lying especially after spending $ on doing your back ground then finding out you lied .
Every app is different. Its impossible to answer that question without more info .
That being said DO NOT panic that its a career ender . Honesty is always the best policy when answering application questions though . A company will accept a guy/gal with a slip up but wont tolerate lying especially after spending $ on doing your back ground then finding out you lied .
02-11-2013 | 01:20 PM
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Key word here is "wash out". Despite what many believe, I know pleanty of guys with a 121 failure that went on to other 121 gigs without a problem. I could be wrong, but im pretty sure it just takes time. If you bust something in training or recurrent, come back and pass, and then go years at said airline without an issue, im sure a future employer would see that and assume you just had a bad time. If you cant overcome it and get fired....that's a different story. Again, just my opinion.
02-11-2013 | 02:36 PM
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