Disclosing Checkride Busts
02-03-2013 | 06:53 PM
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Yes, this is correct.
The only question here is does RAH do a FOIA request on all new hires?
Yes = 100% fired.
I would actually suggest that the person under discussion simply not accept this job, unless he can confirm that RAH does not do FOIA requests. Otherwise it's almost a sure thing that he'll be terminated from a 121 carrier for lying...safe to assume that's a career killer.
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02-03-2013 | 07:13 PM
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If they catch you lying to them they will send you home so fast your head will spin. Every new hire class I have been in a couple seats suddenly became vacant after a few weeks do to background checks.
A honest answer during the interview and ownership of the situation in most cases would have resulted in a non issue.
A honest answer during the interview and ownership of the situation in most cases would have resulted in a non issue.
02-03-2013 | 07:14 PM
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Just curious, what does your airman file include when you order it or an employer requests the full file through FOIA? Do you get actual copies of your 8710s, medicals, and IACRA information? Or is it just a summary showing your certificates held, failures if any, etc...?
02-03-2013 | 07:38 PM
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Just curious, what does your airman file include when you order it or an employer requests the full file through FOIA? Do you get actual copies of your 8710s, medicals, and IACRA information? Or is it just a summary showing your certificates held, failures if any, etc...?
As I said earlier, its not a bad idea to request this yourself so you can see what is in the FAA file. They charge 5 cents a copy and it takes a couple of weeks to get. You have to make seperate requests for the entire FAA file, medical files, and a statment of any enforcement actions against you.
02-03-2013 | 07:41 PM
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Kinda like the folks who ask if a training contract is enforceable.
02-03-2013 | 07:51 PM
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It is a photocopy of everything the FAA has ever been sent. 8710s, temp certificates, written exams, pink slips, etc. I was amazed when I got mine and it included a private written exam score I had taken while in high school in 1987. Medical will be a photocopy of anything that the FAA has been sent on you medically. Any supporting information from a Doctor, forms etc.
As I said earlier, its not a bad idea to request this yourself so you can see what is in the FAA file. They charge 5 cents a copy and it takes a couple of weeks to get. You have to make seperate requests for the entire FAA file, medical files, and a statment of any enforcement actions against you.
As I said earlier, its not a bad idea to request this yourself so you can see what is in the FAA file. They charge 5 cents a copy and it takes a couple of weeks to get. You have to make seperate requests for the entire FAA file, medical files, and a statment of any enforcement actions against you.
02-03-2013 | 08:59 PM
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Thanks for the info! I think Im going to order mine now just to see whats in it. Now that I think about it, its just like getting your credit report before applying for a loan. We should all be doing this before applying for a job just to be sure and prepared for any questions that may come up.
02-03-2013 | 09:40 PM
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Really?! If you know you have no busts or anything else incriminating; Why? If they have some type of erroneous data that prevents you from getting the job, I would think you have a rock solid case of governmental defamation of character. I know going to court would suck, but the outcome could be quite generous. Lost wages (including career potential), defamation, and mental stress could potentially equate to a generous settlement. I would be willing to gamble one single job offer on the outcome of the case.
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