Disclosing Checkride Busts
02-04-2013 | 07:08 AM
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02-04-2013 | 07:44 AM
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FOIA is the freedom of information act. It can be applied to anything.
PRIA contains: enforcement actions, performance from air carriers in which you fill out PRIA requests for and a NDR.
The NDR only contains your name if you have serious driving offenses. (Not speeding tickets) State DOL/DMV records contain speeding tickets etc.
FOIA can access all FAA airman files and complete history of commercial checkride failures.
Someone correct me if I am wrong but...
PRIA only discloses checkride failures from past 5/10 years (of which you fill out the forms prior to employment) and from the FAA side only contain enforcement actions and checkride failures after 2006.
And again....always disclose everything.
PRIA contains: enforcement actions, performance from air carriers in which you fill out PRIA requests for and a NDR.
The NDR only contains your name if you have serious driving offenses. (Not speeding tickets) State DOL/DMV records contain speeding tickets etc.
FOIA can access all FAA airman files and complete history of commercial checkride failures.
Someone correct me if I am wrong but...
PRIA only discloses checkride failures from past 5/10 years (of which you fill out the forms prior to employment) and from the FAA side only contain enforcement actions and checkride failures after 2006.
And again....always disclose everything.
Last edited by Al Czervik; 02-04-2013 at 08:02 AM.
02-04-2013 | 07:56 AM
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The simple answer is if he had received a pink slip, and did not disclose it. He will be fired.
I don't know why people LIE during their interviews. The airlines usually are hurting for pilots, so they trust you, and put you through class while they wait for all of your records to come through.
This is why it'll seem like you're all set, and then the CP will have you come into his office to let you go.
I don't know why people LIE during their interviews. The airlines usually are hurting for pilots, so they trust you, and put you through class while they wait for all of your records to come through.
This is why it'll seem like you're all set, and then the CP will have you come into his office to let you go.
02-04-2013 | 07:56 AM
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After Colgan accident the FAA removed the expungement period all together with exception that any info on a failure prior to 2006 does not show up. Anything after that year now stays on the pria indefinitely. The FAA also says its a temporary suspension of the expungement process, so I'd imagine in the future they'll return to expunging of records.
02-04-2013 | 07:59 AM
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02-04-2013 | 08:01 AM
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For anyone to get any information on your medical records, besides the medical certificate you hold and any restrictions on it, requires you to release it to them in writing. EVEN with FOIA your medical records are protected under the Privacy Act.
Search "AFS-620 PRIA"
02-04-2013 | 08:10 AM
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For anyone to get any information on your medical records, besides the medical certificate you hold and any restrictions on it, requires you to release it to them in writing. EVEN with FOIA your medical records are protected under the Privacy Act.
Search "AFS-620 PRIA"
For anyone to get any information on your medical records, besides the medical certificate you hold and any restrictions on it, requires you to release it to them in writing. EVEN with FOIA your medical records are protected under the Privacy Act.
Search "AFS-620 PRIA"
But I doubt airlines will be able to get any details (exam reports, correspondence, etc) from the FAA. The privacy act cannot be waived, even by the subject of the inquiry as far as I know.
The only way for an airline to get FAA medical details would be for the pilot to use FOIA or privacy act to obtain his own records and then hand them over to the airline himself.
02-04-2013 | 09:20 AM
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Pretty simple stuff, you know if you failed. Simply tell them. I don't get why you wouldn't? When I was going through new hire training, I was talking to a pilot who was about to take his PC, He told me he was nervous because he does not do well on checkrides. Later in the conversation he stated that he failed, Private once, then passed, instrument twice, then passed, commercial once then passed. I believe there was another one as well. Also during training I know that this person did not pass the systems test on the first try, or stage checks, and I believe the oral as well, and he is flying around as we speak... I wish I could make this story up....
So easy a caveman can do it.
So easy a caveman can do it.
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