Disclosing Checkride Busts
02-04-2013 | 09:27 AM
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Look at the link that I posted to your first question... That is how you get your COMPLETE airman file from the FAA. And like others have said, if you have failed check rides, then disclose them. Lying will only come back to haunt you and all aviation jobs are asking if you have "ever" failed a check ride.
02-04-2013 | 10:06 AM
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Just tell your friend to fess up. Lying on a job application gets you nowhere.
02-04-2013 | 02:33 PM
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Medical info is a lot harder to get. The fact that you have an FAA medical cert is easy to verify online using the FAA airmen database...takes about 60 seconds.
But I doubt airlines will be able to get any details (exam reports, correspondence, etc) from the FAA. The privacy act cannot be waived, even by the subject of the inquiry as far as I know.
The only way for an airline to get FAA medical details would be for the pilot to use FOIA or privacy act to obtain his own records and then hand them over to the airline himself.
But I doubt airlines will be able to get any details (exam reports, correspondence, etc) from the FAA. The privacy act cannot be waived, even by the subject of the inquiry as far as I know.
The only way for an airline to get FAA medical details would be for the pilot to use FOIA or privacy act to obtain his own records and then hand them over to the airline himself.
02-04-2013 | 02:35 PM
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Just curious, what does your airman file include when you order it or an employer requests the full file through FOIA? Do you get actual copies of your 8710s, medicals, and IACRA information? Or is it just a summary showing your certificates held, failures if any, etc...?
FOIA will have every slip of paper sent to the FAA about you. The PRIA request from the FAA will have your certificates and any enforcement action on your certificate. Its two seperate requests.
02-04-2013 | 02:38 PM
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After Colgan accident the FAA removed the expungement period all together with exception that any info on a failure prior to 2006 does not show up. Anything after that year now stays on the pria indefinitely. The FAA also says its a temporary suspension of the expungement process, so I'd imagine in the future they'll return to expunging of records.
02-04-2013 | 03:17 PM
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Whats the deal with training records from 121? Will they see training records from just the last 5 years or any employer from the last 5 years? For example, if I've only been employed at a single 121 airline for the past 10 years, will the next carrier I interview for get just the last 5 years of my training records or will they get all of it? Obviously I will still disclose anything and everything if applicable, im just curious what they see in this area.
02-04-2013 | 03:23 PM
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Whats the deal with training records from 121? Will they see training records from just the last 5 years or any employer from the last 5 years? For example, if I've only been employed at a single 121 airline for the past 10 years, will the next carrier I interview for get just the last 5 years of my training records or will they get all of it? Obviously I will still disclose anything and everything if applicable, im just curious what they see in this area.
PRIA requests go to all employers who employed you as a pilot. They mus return any relevant records they, but in the case of part 91 employers that may not be much since they are not actually required to retain records. But if they have them, they must return them.
02-04-2013 | 03:25 PM
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02-04-2013 | 06:00 PM
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When I made the request for my medical file, it contained every medical and all the supporting documentation I supplied to the FAA when I reapplied for my medical after surgery. Once you sign the waivers allowing them access to your records, they can get anything available. You waive your right to privacy when you sign the form allowing them access to the records. However I don't think RP has you sign anything in regard to medical stuff, just flying background.
Other people cannot generally obtain medical info about you from the fed unless it is for healthcare purposes. I don't believe the fed would provide your medical info to an employer even with a waiver signed by you. They would just tell you to hand over the copies yourself.
Also few airlines are interested in delving deeply into your medical history these days...too much risk of getting sued for discrimination, versus the dubious benefit of second-guessing FAA aero-medical.
02-04-2013 | 07:17 PM
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What waiver are you talking about, PRIA? A PRIA form gives employers no more information than what class of medical certificate you hold and any restrictions on it. Because of the "privacy act" and HIPAA the medical records that the FAA have on you to support your medical applications cannot be given out to anyone unless you give written consent with specific language to do so. PERIOD
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