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Old 02-04-2013 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by etflies
I guess as long as you don't count wages, benefits, schedules, treatment of the labor, qualifications to get hired there versus your average regional, what the side of the airplane says versus who you bought a ticket on and just general quality of life, sure, Southwest is a regional.
They're still a regional.

They just happen to not be an outsourced contractor.

Theres a difference.
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Old 02-04-2013 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt
....would you care to guess how powerfully competitive they've been in ATL recently?

You could ask the Aitran pilots who've seen their ATL departures fall 50% from their pre-merger peak.

Or you could ask people in cities like MIA.. CLT.. IAD.. DFW.. SRQ.. TYS.. HPN.. MDT.. HSV.. etc, etc what happened to their direct ATL serivce on SW/AT

A quick check of SWA's latest system traffic report for DEC2012 shows that passengers carried for DEC were down over 3%. PAX for the 4Q were down almost 4% and were also down 1% for the entire year.....and while most Delta pilots (including me) will complain about stagnation, Delta's latest System traffic stats released today show year over year PAX carried up nearly 1%.

The idea that SW is still a juggernaut growing like a weed is silly. They're a good solid company, but they're not out there grabbing market share like they used to. As with all mergers, 1 + 1 does not equal 2. At best, 1+1= 1.5
Diseases do not necessarily advance at a constant rate. It would be equally silly to make an assumption on the significance of a disease based on the current symptoms of the patient.
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Old 02-04-2013 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Except in Pittsburgh.....
Nothing can grow in Pittsburgh.
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Old 02-04-2013 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
Why wouldn't it be? Southwest is a lot more regional than a lot of other regionals out there that have more pilots, fly to more countries, and have more airplane types.
As much as I disagree with most of what you say, this post is so spot on!
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Old 02-04-2013 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DelDah Capt
....would you care to guess how powerfully competitive they've been in ATL recently?

You could ask the Aitran pilots who've seen their ATL departures fall 50% from their pre-merger peak.

Or you could ask people in cities like MIA.. CLT.. IAD.. DFW.. SRQ.. TYS.. HPN.. MDT.. HSV.. etc, etc what happened to their direct ATL serivce on SW/AT

A quick check of SWA's latest system traffic report for DEC2012 shows that passengers carried for DEC were down over 3%. PAX for the 4Q were down almost 4% and were also down 1% for the entire year.....and while most Delta pilots (including me) will complain about stagnation, Delta's latest System traffic stats released today show year over year PAX carried up nearly 1%.

The idea that SW is still a juggernaut growing like a weed is silly. They're a good solid company, but they're not out there grabbing market share like they used to. As with all mergers, 1 + 1 does not equal 2. At best, 1+1= 1.5
It's fun to watch Delta guys toss dirt at SWA; all the while, they make less than SWA pilots across the board. Have for 12 years now.

Whatever helps you sleep good at night.
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Old 02-05-2013 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MWright
It's fun to watch Delta guys toss dirt at SWA; all the while, they make less than SWA pilots across the board. Have for 12 years now.

Whatever helps you sleep good at night.
Many Delta guys toss dirt at all other airlines. Big head syndrome
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Old 02-05-2013 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Many Pilots from all airlines toss dirt at all other airlines. Big head syndrome
Fixed your post.
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Old 02-05-2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MWright
It's fun to watch Delta guys toss dirt at SWA; all the while, they make less than SWA pilots across the board. Have for 12 years now.

Whatever helps you sleep good at night.
And for how many years before bankruptcy did SWA pilots make less then Delta pilots?
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Old 02-05-2013 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
They're still a regional.
I wish my regional had FO pay that topped out at $151
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Old 02-05-2013 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MWright
It's fun to watch Delta guys toss dirt at SWA; all the while, they make less than SWA pilots across the board. Have for 12 years now.

Whatever helps you sleep good at night.

12 years? no.
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