CRJ-700's for Pinnacle?
03-17-2013 | 07:43 AM
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Some good points here. If a IBEW electrcian gets laid off the union finds them other work at the same pay. Why can't ALPA do that? Why does a senior captain with several type ratings and thousands of hours of airline experience have to start at the bottom of the pile on year one F.O. pay if they switch carriers? Its the most unfair messed up system.
03-17-2013 | 08:16 AM
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Me too. Should at least stay in your current pay year if going from one ALPA carrier to another.
At least you get a bad ass new lanyard when you start over again.
03-17-2013 | 08:24 AM
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Transferring longevity isn't a "bad" idea.
That said, put yourselves into management's shoes - would you rather hire somebody off the street making 12 year pay, or somebody making first year pay?
For reasons like this, it'll never happen any more than a "master seniority list" in the airline biz.
That said, put yourselves into management's shoes - would you rather hire somebody off the street making 12 year pay, or somebody making first year pay?
For reasons like this, it'll never happen any more than a "master seniority list" in the airline biz.
03-17-2013 | 08:29 AM
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Spoken by a Colgan pilot who has already experienced a "longevity" transition. I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe were on the other foot. That transition would demolish career expectations and upgrades for established fo's like it already did at 9e. That would never work. I highly doubt 6 year fo's at other carriers would be OK with someone jumping them on the senority list. The only way longevity transfer would work is strictly pay rates, not seniority, and we all know mgmt teams wouldn't buy into that either.
03-17-2013 | 08:45 AM
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Spoken by a Colgan pilot who has already experienced a "longevity" transition. I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe were on the other foot. That transition would demolish career expectations and upgrades for established fo's like it already did at 9e. That would never work. I highly doubt 6 year fo's at other carriers would be OK with someone jumping them on the senority list. The only way longevity transfer would work is strictly pay rates, not seniority, and we all know mgmt teams wouldn't buy into that either.
03-17-2013 | 08:48 AM
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Spoken by a Colgan pilot who has already experienced a "longevity" transition. I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe were on the other foot. That transition would demolish career expectations and upgrades for established fo's like it already did at 9e. That would never work. I highly doubt 6 year fo's at other carriers would be OK with someone jumping them on the senority list. The only way longevity transfer would work is strictly pay rates, not seniority, and we all know mgmt teams wouldn't buy into that either.
03-17-2013 | 08:52 AM
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Some good points here. If a IBEW electrcian gets laid off the union finds them other work at the same pay. Why can't ALPA do that? Why does a senior captain with several type ratings and thousands of hours of airline experience have to start at the bottom of the pile on year one F.O. pay if they switch carriers? Its the most unfair messed up system.
03-17-2013 | 08:54 AM
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Spoken by a Colgan pilot who has already experienced a "longevity" transition. I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if the shoe were on the other foot. That transition would demolish career expectations and upgrades for established fo's like it already did at 9e. That would never work. I highly doubt 6 year fo's at other carriers would be OK with someone jumping them on the senority list. The only way longevity transfer would work is strictly pay rates, not seniority, and we all know mgmt teams wouldn't buy into that either.
03-17-2013 | 11:42 AM
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03-17-2013 | 11:51 AM
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