CRJ-700's for Pinnacle?
03-17-2013 | 12:26 PM
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Parking of 200s has been delayed for remainder of the year at least...possibly longer since the parking of the 200s is directly tied with delivery of the 717s from AirTran which has been subsequenty delayed (I guess SWA still needed them). As for rumors...Ive heard everything under the sun from no furloughs planned at all now, possible hiring, more 700/900s and even such rumors that we may keep a few 200s since 9E is so cheap now. Believe it when it happens.
03-17-2013 | 12:50 PM
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They tried it at Pinnacle. The union let them since the company came back with there wasn't anything in the contract that prevented them from offering extra. Result: Guys came in, worked for six month, got their couple of bonuses (for completeing training and staying 6 months) then went to Skywest, ExpressJet or ASA.
03-17-2013 | 01:34 PM
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Biggest problem with our industry - lack of a real union.
A real union would have:
1) not even put the crap contract out for a vote
2) not sold it as a job saver
3) shut the company down and slotted the furlough pilots in at seniority and longevity across the other union carriers, thus mitigating the losses.
A union should be shared gain and sacrifice. ALPA isn't a real union.
A real union would have:
1) not even put the crap contract out for a vote
2) not sold it as a job saver
3) shut the company down and slotted the furlough pilots in at seniority and longevity across the other union carriers, thus mitigating the losses.
A union should be shared gain and sacrifice. ALPA isn't a real union.
Depends. Are you losing 140 airplanes in the next few years. Or, as the latest rumor has it, will these stick around even longer, negating all the job threats given to pass the concessionary contract.
03-17-2013 | 02:35 PM
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In any case, unions have made the seniority system what it is today, for better and for worse.
03-17-2013 | 03:57 PM
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I'm not really interested in getting in between the Colgan and pinnacle/Mesaba flame war here but, I would like to point one thing out.
If you receive a benefit small or windfall, you should recognize it. Be humble and not throw it in people's faces. If you deny that you received a benefit and claim that it's rightly your seat or plane or whatever, you come off as a douche bag. Don't defend a piece of garbage, acknowledge it for what it is.
If you receive a benefit small or windfall, you should recognize it. Be humble and not throw it in people's faces. If you deny that you received a benefit and claim that it's rightly your seat or plane or whatever, you come off as a douche bag. Don't defend a piece of garbage, acknowledge it for what it is.
03-17-2013 | 04:12 PM
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Parking of 200s has been delayed for remainder of the year at least...possibly longer since the parking of the 200s is directly tied with delivery of the 717s from AirTran which has been subsequenty delayed (I guess SWA still needed them). As for rumors...Ive heard everything under the sun from no furloughs planned at all now, possible hiring, more 700/900s and even such rumors that we may keep a few 200s since 9E is so cheap now. Believe it when it happens.
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