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astec 03-21-2013 11:49 AM

is NA really back on reserve next month? maybe he needs currency

RJ Pilot 03-21-2013 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1376821)
is NA really back on reserve next month? maybe he needs currency

Maybe his buddy Embraer can give the scoop. Management pilots usually dont bid reserve for the entire month to get current.

embraer 03-21-2013 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 1376675)
I just asked NA and he said this was BS.

One of you is lying. Ask LH, he was the one conducting the sim evaluation. Sorry if this hurts your very sensitive ego. Have a cookie.

It wasn't done on the fly. How it was told to me was this guy originally passed the interview but LH and NA had serious doubts he would be able to fly single engine since all his military time was centerline thrust.

So with approval from NA (yes NA) LH put him back in the sim, set him up configured on the ILS and told him what would be happening.

With NA and others watching LH failed one engine and the plane ended up rolling inverted into the ground.

RJ Pilot 03-21-2013 01:03 PM

They should put sim checkairmans to conduct those evaluations like they used to.

Cruz5350 03-21-2013 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1376885)
One of you is lying. Ask LH, he was the one conducting the sim evaluation. Sorry if this hurts your very sensitive ego. Have a cookie.

It wasn't done on the fly. How it was told to me was this guy originally passed the interview but LH and NA had serious doubts he would be able to fly single engine since all his military time was centerline thrust.

So with approval from NA (yes NA) LH put him back in the sim, set him up configured on the ILS and told him what would be happening.

With NA and others watching LH failed one engine and the plane ended up rolling inverted into the ground.

With proper instruction and good attitudes this guy would be able to fly just fine on a single engine. He passed through military flight training and if it was centerline thrust I'm going to go out on a guess and say fighters. You've gotta be kidding me if they passed on this applicant. It be one thing if his personality was awful but that's highly unlikely.

buddies8 03-21-2013 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1376885)
One of you is lying. Ask LH, he was the one conducting the sim evaluation. Sorry if this hurts your very sensitive ego. Have a cookie.

It wasn't done on the fly. How it was told to me was this guy originally passed the interview but LH and NA had serious doubts he would be able to fly single engine since all his military time was centerline thrust.

So with approval from NA (yes NA) LH put him back in the sim, set him up configured on the ILS and told him what would be happening.

With NA and others watching LH failed one engine and the plane ended up rolling inverted into the ground.

the scenario is bull shi+. he passed and then they failed him. seems they did not care with the 250 hour wonders they were hiring a few years ago, to the point they changed the training programs to suit the 250 hour wonderers inability to fly and paid for the wonderers
to get advanced sim training before showing up for the sim eval.

oh, by the way how many props does ae have and for that matter how many jets that are not tail mounted engines does ae have? there reasoning was bull, there actions bull, just out to get the applicant. how many other applicants were treated the same way, if they all did not do a engine failure, single engine ils then the applicant was singled out and discriminted.

mojo6911 03-21-2013 03:47 PM

How would someone with a centerline restricted certificate even interview?

embraer 03-21-2013 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1376978)
the scenario is bull shi+. he passed and then they failed him. seems they did not care with the 250 hour wonders they were hiring a few years ago, to the point they changed the training programs to suit the 250 hour wonderers inability to fly and paid for the wonderers
to get advanced sim training before showing up for the sim eval.

oh, by the way how many props does ae have and for that matter how many jets that are not tail mounted engines does ae have? there reasoning was bull, there actions bull, just out to get the applicant. how many other applicants were treated the same way, if they all did not do a engine failure, single engine ils then the applicant was singled out and discriminted.

Don't shoot the messenger. Take it up with the hiring department.

I will only say that a part 121 airline training center is not a flight school. Pilot's are expected to already have a higher level of aeronautical knowledge/experience when they show up for training.

I'm sure plenty of military pilots with only centerline thrust experience know how to handle a failed engine on a twin. If any are lacking that experience/skill an airline training environment is not the place to learn.

buddies8 03-21-2013 04:03 PM

i am answering the scenario, not you.
the applicant had passed the eval, then they had a hard on and had him do something that appears that no one else was given.
121 standards is what the poi lets them get away with. how 121 qualified were the 250 hour pilots ae hired. I know of one of them that at the end of his IOE, IOE totaled 30% of his total time.

This applicant was discriminated. Simple.

RJ Pilot 03-21-2013 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1377009)
I will only say that a part 121 airline training center is not a flight school. Pilot's are expected to already have a higher level of aeronautical knowledge/experience when they show up for training.

Then why the FOQ's are busting like crazy?


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