If there is a problem pilot, usually there will be some sort of documentation that follows him. It wouldn't surprise me if these 10 pilots you are referring to are very well known in management and they have been written up and disciplined...Just my guess though.

 

Honest question, if Delta was just going to turn around and staple/B scale Pinnacle, why didn't they just come out with that right away instead of the SSP? Also why would Delta put 9E on the bottom, thus opening themselves up to having to pay these "new hires" a much higher pay rate ( guessing DALPA will have a say in that). I have a hard time believing that, especially since they just got an overwhelming yes to operate those same aircraft for alot less.

 

Why would Delta staple Pinnacle?

 

I agree, there will never be a B scale or flow to Delta.

 

Why would Delta up the pay when they could put Pinnacle at bottom/Bscale at these low rates and attract pilots across the board just to get on this list.. That doesnt cost as much. They can keep the rates low with Delta B. I dont think anyone would have thought it could go this way but things are a changing. Shortage of Pinnacle Pilots solved..

 

The only people Delta hired were jerks?


Glad to know where you and I stand for future reference.

 

Remember, we're double breasted van admirals. Thus, jerks. Every last one of us.

Speaking of, next time I'm at work, I'm going to walk down C and D concourse and judge the regional guys that aren't wearing their hats. That's of course without making eye contact or acknowledging their presence.

 

Judge the ones that wear their north face jackets that are always walking to or from a commute and never to or from operating a flight.....

 

Might as well. 85% of the Pinnacle guys voted for a new regional low to try and help themselves get onto a mainline list ahead of everyone else. Then they come on here and insult the pilots already on said list. I think it's safe to say that most of us do not like the Pinnacle flow or the situation. I think the fact that the Pinnacle pilots are throwing it in our faces is making the situation worse. The reality is I am guessing only about 1/4 of the Pinnacle pilots that interview will be offered the job. The other 75 percent will be stuck at Pinnacle making $88/hour or less until someone else hires them.

 

After having flown with guys from all 3 lists, I can tell you that there is definitely precedent to the top 500 thing. The top 500 at original Pinnacle - lifers, DUIs, busts, you name it. XJ and 9L guys have been vastly superior in every way. No wonder our previously crap training program is turning around - they put guys who worked for a much more fair, non-punitive system in place. It's embarassing to go into our crew rooms and hear 9E CAs laughing and wildly throwing out accusations of Colgan people causing stick shakers - apparently we FOs have to do OE for these guys?!

I am not kidding when I say that the old 9E culture was cowboy. It is refreshing to have standard CAs (XJ/9L) at the helm.

I think it's funny to get laughed at by a 9E CA when I call "airspeed" when he is 15+ knots over assigned speed or Vref and I get a hearty laugh and "are you serious??"

I had one guy who I debriefed instead of calling for a go around on an unstabilized approach (when our visual approach criteria had just changed) tell me that he would have ignored my go-around call and continued the landing. Yup "original Pinnacle".