ShyGuy

LOL! I meant per flight. You can always step away, get a coffee alone, breathe in, out, and then go back to the gate for another flight. As opposed to being locked in the cockpit on a 7-12hr nonstop flight. This is especially true for those 8 hrs or less flights where it's only 2 cockpit crewmembers.

ShyGuy

Every XJ/9E/9L FO needs to read this statement:

and realize they will not be hired when Delta tells them that all the street candidates are RJ Captains with TPIC time and therefore you are not competitive with the other applicants getting conditional job offers.

I honestly think a lot of people are going to be disappointed by how this Delta SSP is going to really work out in the end.

Bartok

Why don't you quote the portion that says 1/3 of all applicants offered jobs will be 9E?

Doesn't fit with your rhetoric?

ShyGuy

Ask yourself this. What if all the guys interviewing are jerks, or bad interviewers, or go in feeling entitled. Will Delta deny them or meet a quota that you seem to love quoting?

Also, Delta can offer a conditional offer, and on day 3 take it back. Some guys had this happen with the shrink exam portion. So it goes back to:

" is potentially qualified to be provided with a conditional job offer but is not competitive with other applicants who had previously or are being provided with conditional job offers. "

shimmydamp

Amazing how Shy finds so many silver linings in the sky when it comes to defending VX, but when it comes to 9E, everything is viewed as dark clouds and thunder. Some deep-seated issues going on with you man.

If you want to talk about bad attitudes of pilots moving on, to tell you the truth I wouldn't want to fly with someone bringing up the resentment of their past employer the entire time on trans-con flight.

gojo

It's his mission to bring everyone else down. Hence the old saying, misery loves company

Bartok

There are at least 1500 pilots at 9E that are competitive with the rest of the Regionals.

And the first 500 are probably more qualified than most Regionals.

Thats a lot of classes to go through. At 12 9E pilots a month that is 42 months. Even if they turned down a third of the pilots = 330, which is 28 months.

I doubt they will waste their time turning every single pilot down over and over again.

This is their objective anyway, they need to clean out the top of 9E to keep costs low.

mooney

like button? Hockey have you read some of your posts? Although they are improving overall

Airsupport

Shy is the kind of guy who looks for bad news like there is a reward for it. The company could come out tomorrow and say "we are going to grow and get more flying" and shy would poo poo all over it saying he will believe it when he sees it blah, blah, blah. The same company could come out and say "the end state of the company is 81 airplanes" and shy would take it as gospel and tell everyone to run for their lives" like a chicken with its head cut off. He is even trying to leave VA for Spirit right now. As soon as he leaves VA he will poo poo on them too and say how wonderful spirit is and that everyone at VA is dumb for staying there,the writings on the wall, the die is cast.... blah blah blah... anyway you get the point. Its always better where shy is.

Anyway from what I have seen I think things are starting to look up here. There will be movement and people will move on to Delta. I even believe the pinnacle name will be gone by years end and we will just be Delta.

ShyGuy

Who says I bring up resentment of the past employer? I have nothing against 9E in terms of what it did for my career. I remember Clive Seal's welcome in newhire class. He told us to work hard, enjoy our time, and get out in 5 years. Mission accomplished.