Pinnacle
04-26-2013 | 04:01 PM
#371
Gets Weekends Off
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Wow...lots of pages! We are all pilots flying the public around. If it happens, great! More fellow pilots making it. If not, lots of people will be hiring over the next few years and I'm sure most of those that want to move on will. I'd like to be at DL someday and one thing is clear as for right now: if I leave PNCL for someone else, and the agreement doesn't change, then DL is off the table. I'm gonna hang out for a bit and see what happens.
04-26-2013 | 07:25 PM
#372
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Wow...lots of pages! We are all pilots flying the public around. If it happens, great! More fellow pilots making it. If not, lots of people will be hiring over the next few years and I'm sure most of those that want to move on will. I'd like to be at DL someday and one thing is clear as for right now: if I leave PNCL for someone else, and the agreement doesn't change, then DL is off the table. I'm gonna hang out for a bit and see what happens.
Best wishes though, I'm not telling ya to get the heck out.
04-26-2013 | 11:09 PM
#373
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From: blueJet
Maybe Delta turing Pinnacle into a mirror image of themselves will change the pinnacle culture into the culture they want. If that works, they may take it a step further and try something else. In principle it actually does make sense. A pilot would be hired at Pinnacle and from day one would have a delta mentality. He would fly the airplane the delta way and treat the customers as such. when his delta spot opens up he would move up with minimal training besides the aircraft. The interview at pinnacle would be a delta interview, not a pinnacle interview. All outside the box thinking and not popular thinking, but we should not think it to be impossible.
And maybe someday they can put ads in Flying Magazine, that look something like this...
Nobody would expect it.
04-26-2013 | 11:29 PM
#375
Day puke
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That's pretty outside the box. They could even start a flight school to train new pilots to be Delta regional pilots, before they become Delta mainline pilots. Maybe they could even call it Pinnacle Aviation Academy, then change the name to Delta Connection Academy?
And maybe someday they can put ads in Flying Magazine, that look something like this...
Nobody would expect it.
And maybe someday they can put ads in Flying Magazine, that look something like this...
Nobody would expect it.
Been there, done that. I was young(er), dumb(er), and full(er) of c#m.
04-26-2013 | 11:41 PM
#376
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How is that "worth it." You are more likely to be called *sooner* if you leave now and go to a LCC, get some Airbus type/time and apply with that. You'd stand above the rest of the RJ only resumes.
04-26-2013 | 11:41 PM
#377
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From: blueJet
Lets have a whole different idea, one that sounds exactly the same, looks exactly the same, and feels exactly the same, but ends happily.
04-27-2013 | 04:39 AM
#379
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How does that make sense? People can leave but won't, all for a chance to interview at Delta? That language? All it does is force you to stay at 9E in order to qualify for the SSP. If you move on to anything bigger than a regional (as all the carriers listed in the SSP are legacies/majors/LCCs), then you do not qualify for the SSP. So either jump now and make a liveable wage at Spirit/Virgin/JetBlue/US Air or stay put at bottom barrel wages and hope for a chance one day for a Delta interview. $82/hr topped out CR2 Captain salary, the same as the original 1999 contract. Who wants to stay with that just for a guaranteed interview. You'd make more 2nd year at Spirit/Virgin/JetBlue.
How is that "worth it." You are more likely to be called *sooner* if you leave now and go to a LCC, get some Airbus type/time and apply with that. You'd stand above the rest of the RJ only resumes.
How is that "worth it." You are more likely to be called *sooner* if you leave now and go to a LCC, get some Airbus type/time and apply with that. You'd stand above the rest of the RJ only resumes.
Either way, based on past posts, I'm not going to be the one to break it down for you further....
04-27-2013 | 05:05 AM
#380
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There seems to be a misconception about the SSP. According to some, if you go somewhere else listed on the SSP, you are now ineligible for Delta, forever.
According to the union, it just disqualifies you for the specific SSP benefit but you can still apply / get hired at Delta.
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