Quagmire

Irony is a form of speech in which the real meaning is concealed or contradicted by the words used. Irony involves the perception that things are not what they are said to be or what they seem. Dramatic irony lies in the audience's deeper perceptions of a coming fate, which contrast with a character's lack of knowledge about said fate.

bender

You weren't, so you made an asinine post. How many instructors with 600TT have jumped at the chance to fly JETS!! at XJet? Here's a whole list of them right here:


http://www2.atpflightschool.com/AirlinePlacements/

I don't blame you though. It's hard to be mad at a monkey for flinging poo. It's just what they do!

Slaphappy

This coming from an XJT pilot? The same airline that hires 500 hour wonders like mad and takes dozens from Gulfstream and other Pilot Puppy mills?

Skywest has about 30-35% fail rate in their interviews and to even get an interview you have to have 1000 hours total no exceptions. So don't tell me skywest is an SJS airlines when 90% of the newhire classes are filled with ex part 121 airline pilots and when XJT hires anyone with a pulse.

JetJock16

True, but ATP has this so called "Alliance" with SKW that is nothing but smoke and mirrors. ATP pilots can "GET" and interview with SKW at 850/100 but even if they get hired they can't start ground school until they have 1000/100. SKW sticks to their guns, that why they are SKW and not "Them other guys."

http://www.atpflightschool.com/airli..._alliance.html

rickair7777

I relieved to here that the program works this way. That's kind of what I suspected when I heard about it...SKW is having trouble (like everyone) getting enough pilots, so this allows them to sign up someone with potential who might otherwise have jumped for a lesser airline prior to getting 1000 TT.

SkyHigh

Man you guys all are just grist for the mill. Why not ask the real question, "Why are we doing this"?

The regional market is going to crash and everyone will get reshuffled. It is already beginning to tip. The big issue is to get in, upgrade, get out. The problem is that there are not enough good places to go on to.


600 hour new hires at the regionals and no growth at the majors. The writing is on the wall. Half of you will most likely be out of work in 2 years.


SkyHigh

stanrhintx

Hopefully by then I'll have enough seniority to be above the furlough list.

I'm 42, done a lot of different stuff and haven't been homeless yet.

SkyHigh

Man you are 42 and you are new to the airline industry? You should know better. By now if you haven't found a better place in the world than as a Mesa FO then homelessness might be in your future.


SkyHigh

stanrhintx

Well, can't say I share your sense of doom and gloom. I didn't start flying until I was almost 40, so I'm afraid I can't join you in your hopes of despair for me.

But have a nice day, anyway.

JetJock16

Airlines are running 85+% full, yes there isn't room for new airlines but there sure won't be much of a reduction. Airline travel is still the safest and by far the most efficient form of travel and that won't change. Unless you figure out how to teleport. Your negative outlook is unfounded. What will happen is the weak will get brought out by the strong and then will become streamlined. Ex. SKW & ASA, AWA & US Airways and it won’t stop here.

As far as “out on our asses,” 30-35% of commercial airline pilots must retire by 2011, that's way more vacancies than I think you understand. With less than 130K total airline pilots in the industry (includes Fractionals, 135, Cargo, 121 Major & 121 Regional) that 35-40K retirees. Plus with pilot training at an all time low & less military pilots than ever, the "written is on the wall!" Even if there is a reduction of flying, you can’t reduce that much because airlines have less than 15% of their seats available and with what you are saying we’ll have to have a 35+% reduction.

What you say would be true but only if two things happened. 1) No pilots retired. 2) A huge reduction in fling.

I'll tell you where you don't want to be, you don't want to get hire after mid 2010. The US pilot group will be so young that there won't be any movement for you. And those pilots will be the ones furloughed. As for as the rest of us, get to your strong airline of choice as fast as you can, because the movement is about to blast off. The faster you get there the further up the totem pole you'll climb and that’s job safety.

To all pilots, DON'T LISEN TO SKYHIGH, his opinion is unfounded!!!!! Do your research, unlike Skyhigh!

These are just facts.