SKW EMB pilots get shafted!
12-05-2006 | 10:59 AM
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You shouldn't talk about things you don't understand, Brasilia Boy.
First off, why don't you give us the numbers on ASA "losing flying". Tell us how many routes ASA has lost since the acquisition. (I'll help you, we're only ENTITLED to 80% of ATL by the Delta agreement). Oh, and do you HONESTLY believe you will get the Comair stuff?
Second of all, it's not about what Jerry WANTS to pay his redneck stepkids, it's about what our union will MAKE him pay. And you should be praying to the deity of your choice that we top your current pay or you can expect to bend over and lose flying to us.
First off, why don't you give us the numbers on ASA "losing flying". Tell us how many routes ASA has lost since the acquisition. (I'll help you, we're only ENTITLED to 80% of ATL by the Delta agreement). Oh, and do you HONESTLY believe you will get the Comair stuff?
Second of all, it's not about what Jerry WANTS to pay his redneck stepkids, it's about what our union will MAKE him pay. And you should be praying to the deity of your choice that we top your current pay or you can expect to bend over and lose flying to us.
Apparently you’re very delusional, probably sniffing to much Jet A, but last I checked a TA was an agreement. If you actually think that ALPA forces the airline to pay then maybe you should look around the industry. Name one ALPA carrier that has stuck it to Mgmnt. Get off the fumes man; they've already killed too many of your brain cells. I bet you that when ASA gets their new TA that the bottom line will right with ours.
F9, Comair and SLC flying. I wouldn't be surprised if ASA ends up with both F9 and Comair flying. BUT, it makes since that all SLC flying end up with SKW. After all it is our back yard and makes no business since to overlap both airlines there. Yes we are flying 900 out of ALT now, but what Jerry has planed with both of us is up in the air. The only thing that is certain is that changes are happening and I'm 110% positive that the outcome with be positive for both airlines. I fully support ASA, but I'm not delusional on were we stand when it comes to HQ.
Finally, get off your high horse. Yes there are quite a few pilots at SKW that mouth off but the same can be said about ASA. And it's apparent your one of them.
In the end SKW Inc. will come out with a business plan that will utilize both airlines to strengthen our future. Believe me when I say that Jerry won't let ALPA compromise that.
12-05-2006 | 12:20 PM
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And you should be praying to the deity of your choice that we top your current pay or you can expect to bend over and lose flying to us.
12-05-2006 | 12:37 PM
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I am very sympathetic when it comes to ASA. I have quite a few friends that work there and we talk often. The bottom line is, you are his "Step Child,'" like it or not it's true.
Apparently you’re very delusional, probably sniffing to much Jet A, but last I checked a TA was an agreement. If you actually think that ALPA forces the airline to pay then maybe you should look around the industry. Name one ALPA carrier that has stuck it to Mgmnt. Get off the fumes man; they've already killed too many of your brain cells. I bet you that when ASA gets their new TA that the bottom line will right with ours.
F9, Comair and SLC flying. I wouldn't be surprised if ASA ends up with both F9 and Comair flying. BUT, it makes since that all SLC flying end up with SKW. After all it is our back yard and makes no business since to overlap both airlines there. Yes we are flying 900 out of ALT now, but what Jerry has planed with both of us is up in the air. The only thing that is certain is that changes are happening and I'm 110% positive that the outcome with be positive for both airlines. I fully support ASA, but I'm not delusional on were we stand when it comes to HQ.
Finally, get off your high horse. Yes there are quite a few pilots at SKW that mouth off but the same can be said about ASA. And it's apparent your one of them.
In the end SKW Inc. will come out with a business plan that will utilize both airlines to strengthen our future. Believe me when I say that Jerry won't let ALPA compromise that.
Apparently you’re very delusional, probably sniffing to much Jet A, but last I checked a TA was an agreement. If you actually think that ALPA forces the airline to pay then maybe you should look around the industry. Name one ALPA carrier that has stuck it to Mgmnt. Get off the fumes man; they've already killed too many of your brain cells. I bet you that when ASA gets their new TA that the bottom line will right with ours.
F9, Comair and SLC flying. I wouldn't be surprised if ASA ends up with both F9 and Comair flying. BUT, it makes since that all SLC flying end up with SKW. After all it is our back yard and makes no business since to overlap both airlines there. Yes we are flying 900 out of ALT now, but what Jerry has planed with both of us is up in the air. The only thing that is certain is that changes are happening and I'm 110% positive that the outcome with be positive for both airlines. I fully support ASA, but I'm not delusional on were we stand when it comes to HQ.
Finally, get off your high horse. Yes there are quite a few pilots at SKW that mouth off but the same can be said about ASA. And it's apparent your one of them.
In the end SKW Inc. will come out with a business plan that will utilize both airlines to strengthen our future. Believe me when I say that Jerry won't let ALPA compromise that.
couldn't agree with this more
12-06-2006 | 07:15 AM
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From: SKYW CRJ FO
John,
I will make a FRIENDLY bet, say dinner, that you don't get what you WANT or expect. Will your contract be an improvement, of course. But will you get what you have waited four years for??? Plus the contract is subjective to our views which will make it difficult to determine who won the bet. Either way, good luck and you can treat me and my $19.02/hr worthless a** to dinner and I'll buy the drinks!
I hope you guys are the start of getting things back to the way they should be in the industry with respect to pay and quality of life. It needs to start somewhere.
www.Airlinepilotcentral.com is where it is posted that you will be doing Frontier flying. I have seen things on there about SkyWest before we as pilots found out about them for sure, so I have no reason to believe it isn't true. However, I just checked and it isn't there any more. Maybe I saw it somewhere else, did anyone else see it on here?
I will make a FRIENDLY bet, say dinner, that you don't get what you WANT or expect. Will your contract be an improvement, of course. But will you get what you have waited four years for??? Plus the contract is subjective to our views which will make it difficult to determine who won the bet. Either way, good luck and you can treat me and my $19.02/hr worthless a** to dinner and I'll buy the drinks!
I hope you guys are the start of getting things back to the way they should be in the industry with respect to pay and quality of life. It needs to start somewhere.
www.Airlinepilotcentral.com is where it is posted that you will be doing Frontier flying. I have seen things on there about SkyWest before we as pilots found out about them for sure, so I have no reason to believe it isn't true. However, I just checked and it isn't there any more. Maybe I saw it somewhere else, did anyone else see it on here?
12-06-2006 | 11:35 AM
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