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Pilotguy143 07-15-2013 02:53 AM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 1445089)
Does you Vajayjay hurt to?

That's not very nice. Are you a Delta guy or have some reason to defend them?

frankwasright 07-15-2013 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin (Post 1444939)
They can't shut us all down. Maybe if the airways/American regional carriers mec's got together they could all stand up together and tell aag to pound sand, therell be no cocessions today. Put those union dues to use other than that lousy magazine. As I've said on here a million times...isn't that the point of a union?

Yes,it is.An alliance between airlines would be nice.I doubt that would ever happen.Most people do not have the stomach for what SHOULD happen,to wit : Compas/Pinnacle/Go Jets would be excluded in everything -no jumpseats,no hiring from there,etc.Companies that vote for paycuts need to be cut off and die on the vine.

What 07-15-2013 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by frankwasright (Post 1445125)
Yes,it is.An alliance between airlines would be nice.I doubt that would ever happen.Most people do not have the stomach for what SHOULD happen,to wit : Compas/Pinnacle/Go Jets would be excluded in everything -no jumpseats,no hiring from there,etc.Companies that vote for paycuts need to be cut off and die on the vine.

You think that's bad, wait until this afternoon. The AE MEC is about to vote on concessions that include a B Scale.

DeadHead 07-15-2013 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1444969)
I guess that sounded silly. What i was trying to say was that if you fly around the ATL area all you hear from every delta airplane is "Got any ride reports?" "Got any ride reports for the climb?", "How about 320?", "Anything at fl300?".
What i was trying to get at is that the world doesn't revolve around Delta. When i need to get a word in on the radio i have to listen to them go on and on about where the good rides are. People can't check on, someone may need an immediate deviation but noooooooo Delta needs a ride report.

Delta Delta Delta……. Sick of it.

Delta = Negative

When it comes to competing? Why? Why do we have to be at Pinnacle level? Let Delta get what they pay for. Delta isn't the be all end all. They aren't the only airline in the sky. If Airways really wants to compete with them then build an Oil Refinery.

Are you seriously unable to get a word in with the center controllers?
Don't hear much of that on approach, but enroute I rarely hear the frequency saturated.

paxhauler85 07-15-2013 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by frankwasright (Post 1445125)
Yes,it is.An alliance between airlines would be nice.I doubt that would ever happen.Most people do not have the stomach for what SHOULD happen,to wit : Compas/Pinnacle/Go Jets would be excluded in everything -no jumpseats,no hiring from there,etc.Companies that vote for paycuts need to be cut off and die on the vine.

Should be noted that Compass is able to keep their costs low via low longevity. Most senior pilot on property is just shy of 6 years, and we've just heard the flow will begin in the fall. After that, the senior pilot will be approximately 5 years, with the junior captain at 3 years.

The Compass contract is in no way concessionary, and our creation isn't suspect, as GoJets is (union busting operation).

Just general commentary for those who may not be familiar with Compass. Don't want anyone assuming that concessions have been voted in or imposed. Still working under the agreement that the Northwest MEC negotiated on our behalf (this occurred before Compass hired its first pilot) in 2007.

8hourrule 07-15-2013 05:45 AM

Another depressing letter
 
Please. Compass is a B scale operation. They are no better than anyone else. No worse but no better.

RJ Pilot 07-15-2013 05:46 AM

Like I said, Im gonna ride this puppy till it crashes and burn.

Vote NO.

MrMustache 07-15-2013 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1445151)
Please. Compass is a B scale operation. They are no better than anyone else. No worse but no better.

So that means at one point Comair and ASA were too? Or what criteria are you using to come to this conclusion.

8hourrule 07-15-2013 05:56 AM

Another depressing letter
 
Regionals are concessionary by nature. Comair was, and ASA is. Don't pretend that compass is any different. Don't get me wrong. I think compass is probably the prettiest pig at the dance but its still a pig.

MrMustache 07-15-2013 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by 8hourrule (Post 1445162)
Regionals are concessionary by nature. Comair was, and ASA is. Don't pretend that compass is any different. Don't get me wrong. I think compass is probably the prettiest pig at the dance but its still a pig.

Ok well you first said B scale operation, implying it to be comparable to GJ/9E and lumped in with Franks idea of no JS, Hiring Etc. Now it's not. So which one is it? Everyone I know from Pinnacle loves it over there.


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