well for one, you aren't dealing with Delta....:rolleyes:

Gentleman, It's to early to celebrate.

The concept of a B scale is unacceptable and thus this document is unacceptable and shall NOT be sent for pilot ratification; further the MEC hereby declines any further negotiations with a reference to a B scale.

The B scale idea was rejected but the concessions negotiations are a go as long as the company returns to the table. It was a small step in the right direction but the storm is full steam ahead.

Give me a break, that's a **** poor excuse. DP is just as capable to do the same thing. Which coincidently looks to be what he is trying to do.

The Eagle MEC voted exactly how should have, much like the countless offers from management the 9E MEC, negotiating committee and 9E pilot group refused. Just because your management brought 9E into this argument doesn't mean 9E is the cause of what US Air is asking. Pinnacle held the line for years before gaining an industry leading contract and then being forced into bankruptcy with concessions.

No one here at Pinnacle wishes the decisions we had to make on any other carrier. Some here suggested the other regional MEC's should come to our aid before the vote, but the gallery was silent.

Congrats to the Eagle guys! Finally someone stands up for what we barely make.

9E IS the problem. You voted more than half of your selves out of a job and the rest for horrible wages. Delta bragged about how they got you to do it and the rest of the industry liked it. 9E started this. ZERO doubt about that.

9E's previous contract was hardly industry leading. Payrates not much better if at all than ASA and worse than XJT. Name a "leading" aspect of that contract that ASA or ExpressJet didn't have for years before that.

Excellent, now how about ALPA and APA working together to make this place worth coming to.

I suppose that everyone conveniently forgets this little snippet...

Actions speak louder than words. Pinnacle had the option to hold the line under threat of shut down. They chose to keep the doors open and create a target for other airline managements. The gallery being quiet means nothing. Eagle hung it out there today without a cheering section. It might be the end of them, but they knew that and still held...just sayin'.

Pinnacl held the line for years? Yeah, if by holding the line you mean the 1999 contract-4-jets signed through may 2005, and then continued to serve under the amendable date for another 6 years! 20.73/hr and then 24.39/hr 2nd year. Oh yeah they held the line! Then they bought your nonunion operation called Colgan and grew that tremendously while downgrading and displacing 9E captains. Yeah we held the line! You're welcome Colgan. Oh please. And the JCBA an industry leading contract? Maybe in your Colgan eyes, but the truth is it was a copy/paste of the mesaba contract plus a little payraise compared to original Mesaba rates. It was hardly industry-leading. XJT had several things in their contract far better than the jCBa. Put down the pipe.

The majors are bringing down the "top scale" regional costs - the expensive crews. Delta's highest Regional cockpit crew cost is $160.00 / flight hour as compared to $135 / flight hour at GoJets. Endeavor is not the lowest.

Future crew planning prompts them to level FOs at about the five year point - assuming they will shortly move into the left seat with higher pay. They will also try and level captains pay at about the twelve year point assuming a majority of them will have moved on to the majors by then.

There will be screaming, gnashing of teeth, foot dragging, game blaming, threats and promises of martyrdom and statements of "take one for the team." I think most of you should study the Endeavor (Pinnacle) pay scale and start your future financial planning.