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Old 09-01-2013 | 06:40 AM
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Of these three regional airlines, Compass, ExpressJet, or Mesa, which is the fastest upgrade to Captain, pay, or QOL. Could some pilots who fly for these companies please give me their opinion of their employers. Thanks very much.
And whoever answers this question accurately, please give me the winning Powerball numbers. Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by B727 right seat
Of these three regional airlines, Compass, ExpressJet, or Mesa, which is the fastest upgrade to Captain, pay, or QOL. Could some pilots who fly for these companies please give me their opinion of their employers. Thanks very much.

There are many factors which determine upgrade speed, and it may have nothing to do withe the "quality" of the regional.

Growth, stagnation, shrinkage...management has some control, but may be hampered by their own costs if the competition is growing or just has lower costs (ie bottom feeders). Expressjet is owned by SKW, Inc which tends to compete well but there's no guarantee when Inc wins a contract as to which subsidiary it would go to.

Major hiring...one would think this would affect all regionals equally but but compass for example has a lot of guys eligible for DAL flow-through so new hires could likely move faster.

Me personally I would probably go with CZ...not a horrible place to work (like mesa) and there's a very high chance of movement when DAL hires. Note that you will not get flow-through to DAL, that's only for the guys who were there when DAL merged with NWA.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 07:17 AM
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Never base your career decisions on predictions for the future. You will only end up being grumpy and disapointed.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Expressjet is owned by SKW, Inc which tends to compete well but there's no guarantee when Inc wins a contract as to which subsidiary it would go to.
That's some funny stuff. Anyone with one ounce of foresight in the SKYW "family" knows ALL future growth will go to SkyWest Airlines, the non union side. If you don't understand the reasons for that, then your opinion of other regionals probably isn't very valid either.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
That's some funny stuff. Anyone with one ounce of foresight in the SKYW "family" knows ALL future growth will go to SkyWest Airlines, the non union side. If you don't understand the reasons for that, then your opinion of other regionals probably isn't very valid either.
I thought L-ASA had some language regarding equitable sharing of growth?

Since I'm at SKW I would love to think well be getting all future growth but I don't really have that feeling. And I have plenty of insight.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I thought L-ASA had some language regarding equitable sharing of growth?

Since I'm at SKW I would love to think well be getting all future growth but I don't really have that feeling. And I have plenty of insight.
You "thought"? Our contract is readily available online. Read it instead of guessing. We have no guarantees of anything except in the extremely rare instance that airplanes are directly transferred, which will never happen. The reason you will get all growth, is because with no actual contract, you provide the company the "competitive flexibility" they think they need and have been pounding us to give them in negotiations. Your "contract" can be modified with the sending of an internal memo. Ours is expensive to modify (violate). Therefore, they would rather deal with your side.

L-ASA always showed a willingness to work with SKYW toward mutual goals. With the acquisition of XJT, we've taken on a majority who wants to poke the company in the eye and burn it down just because we can. SKYW wants no part of that. As far as I am concerned, our fate was sealed the day we got a common FAA certificate.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Expressjet is owned by SKW, Inc which tends to compete well but there's no guarantee when Inc wins a contract as to which subsidiary it would go to.
That's some funny stuff. Anyone with one ounce of foresight in the SKYW "family" knows ALL future growth will go to SkyWest Airlines, the non union side. If you don't understand the reasons for that, then your opinion of other regionals probably isn't very valid either.
Then why did you guys get the Eagle DFW flying and not OO?
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Old 09-01-2013 | 09:12 AM
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For someone with 727 and part 135 time I would say none of them.

An experienced pilot shouldn't have to start over at the bottom of a regional airline for 20k a year.

Subscribe to the orange site and take a look at latest pilot jobs dot com.

Good luck.
What's so special about 727 time? Or 135 time? There's nothing wrong with it but it's really no different than RJ time.

People need to stop thinking in terms of what airplane people fly. It really doesn't matter. What matters is where the decimal point lies on your paycheck.

Having flown a 727 entitles nobody to anything. And I don't think the OP was feeling that way.

A buddy of mine with thousands of hours of SIC time on MD-11s in Europe (holding US and JAA ATP certs) was told by Delta in an interview that he had no PIC time in the airline world and was told to pound sand. He felt entitled of course because of his MD-11 time.

We need to stop differentiating 'mainline' and 'regional' equipment and stop fetishizing anything made by Boeing, Airbus or McDonnell-Douglas.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 10:33 AM
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Go ahead and stick to it... It's dead wrong though.
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Old 09-01-2013 | 11:20 AM
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Then why did you guys get the Eagle DFW flying and not OO?
Inc. needed a home for existing CR2's + crews.
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