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Old 09-02-2013 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Sure, when you guys vote yes and become just one number above pinnacle.

My buddy there says a lot of people jumping and celebrating new planes. But for what will you guys give away? Pay? Benefits?

Are you guys will lower the bar for planes? Or are going to stay strong? All the regionals need us, there's no time for concessions...
I say an incomprehensible thing to you all... Lets wait and see. You weren't in the negotiating room and neither was I. Neither was any PSA person aside from the delegated people. So before we all jump to conclusions that we are gonna endeavor air ourselves lets just wait and see?
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Old 09-02-2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Sure, when you guys vote yes and become just one number above pinnacle.

My buddy there says a lot of people jumping and celebrating new planes. But for what will you guys give away? Pay? Benefits?

Are you guys will lower the bar for planes? Or are going to stay strong? All the regionals need us, there's no time for concessions...
I say an incomprehensible thing to you all... Lets wait and see. You weren't in the negotiating room and neither was I. Neither was any PSA person aside from the delegated people. So before we all jump to conclusions that we are gonna endeavor air ourselves lets just wait and see?
Like you said, wait and see.

All I tell you is that they did not negotiated pay raises or benefits.

Concessions will hurt everybody that are in negotiations for a new contract.

You guys need to draw the line in the sand and get your brothers at PDT do the same. Only that way we (Eagle/PSA&PDT) will make them show their real cards.

AA and USAir made huge profits last quarter. They have money to pay us, so stand proud.
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Old 09-02-2013 | 05:47 PM
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Default PilotJ3, unless you have walked for 89 day's

In standing the line trying to better this industry ended Comair! We drew the line all it got us was free pizza ended a great airline.

Captainrj

UOTE=PilotJ3;1475404]Like you said, wait and see.

All I tell you is that they did not negotiated pay raises or benefits.

Concessions will hurt everybody that are in negotiations for a new contract.

You guys need to draw the line in the sand and get your brothers at PDT do the same. Only that way we (Eagle/PSA&PDT) will make them show their real cards.

AA and USAir made huge profits last quarter. They have money to pay us, so stand proud.[/QUOTE]
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Old 09-02-2013 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PerfInit
Never base your career decisions on predictions for the future. You will only end up being grumpy and disapointed.
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Old 09-02-2013 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by saab2000
What's so special about 727 time? Or 135 time? There's nothing wrong with it but it's really no different than RJ time.

People need to stop thinking in terms of what airplane people fly. It really doesn't matter. What matters is where the decimal point lies on your paycheck.

Having flown a 727 entitles nobody to anything. And I don't think the OP was feeling that way.

A buddy of mine with thousands of hours of SIC time on MD-11s in Europe (holding US and JAA ATP certs) was told by Delta in an interview that he had no PIC time in the airline world and was told to pound sand. He felt entitled of course because of his MD-11 time.

We need to stop differentiating 'mainline' and 'regional' equipment and stop fetishizing anything made by Boeing, Airbus or McDonnell-Douglas.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
200% agreed

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What matters is where the decimal point lies on your paycheck.
I think you meant "comma" but I still agree with you bro.
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Old 09-02-2013 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainRJ
In standing the line trying to better this industry ended Comair! We drew the line all it got us was free pizza ended a great airline.

Captainrj

UOTE=PilotJ3;1475404]Like you said, wait and see.

All I tell you is that they did not negotiated pay raises or benefits.

Concessions will hurt everybody that are in negotiations for a new contract.

You guys need to draw the line in the sand and get your brothers at PDT do the same. Only that way we (Eagle/PSA&PDT) will make them show their real cards.

AA and USAir made huge profits last quarter. They have money to pay us, so stand proud.
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Commair was a different story. There was a surplus of pilot pool. Right now there's a lot less people with the qualifications to be hired. Just with the ATP minimums rule and FTDT rules, they need us.

Commair drew the line in a strike
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Old 09-03-2013 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
OK chief.

Most people leave the regionals for the jobs you mentioned, not the other way around.

Your comments give me hope that there will in fact be a pilot shortage at the majors. All those guys will be leaving to go fly for Compass!
I agree that dude is delusional at best
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Old 09-03-2013 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight
Because most people starting out at Compass, Express, or Mesa probably have a background of bashing the pattern in a 172, with zero prior 135 or 121 experience.
The above sentence is the direct quote that I was responding to, my post had nothing to do with people choosing other jobs over coming to Compass or any other regional. I was merely trying to defend these regional airline pilot groups and say that there are many different backgrounds for the people working there and most of them do not in any way resemble the above post. I think it's a little sad that ExpressJet is included in the above post and yet you don't seem to have any heartache with that, just with me trying to defend the pilots working there for some reason.
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