Of these 3 regional airlines??
09-01-2013 | 11:39 AM
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09-01-2013 | 11:50 AM
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What's so special about 727 time? Or 135 time? There's nothing wrong with it but it's really no different than RJ time.
People need to stop thinking in terms of what airplane people fly. It really doesn't matter. What matters is where the decimal point lies on your paycheck.
Having flown a 727 entitles nobody to anything. And I don't think the OP was feeling that way.
That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
People need to stop thinking in terms of what airplane people fly. It really doesn't matter. What matters is where the decimal point lies on your paycheck.
Having flown a 727 entitles nobody to anything. And I don't think the OP was feeling that way.
That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Because most people starting out at Compass, Express, or Mesa probably have a background of bashing the pattern in a 172, with zero prior 135 or 121 experience.
But someone who has time in a 727 or 737 or A320 etc has already proven that they can make it through an airline training program and will have experience in CRM, multi crew environment, 121 regs, 121 operations, advanced aircraft systems, etc.
No one mentioned anything about entitlements. Just the value of experience, which is worth more than the 20k starting salary offered by the regionals.
09-01-2013 | 01:14 PM
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Because most people starting out at Compass, Express, or Mesa probably have a background of bashing the pattern in a 172, with zero prior 135 or 121 experience.
But someone who has time in a 727 or 737 or A320 etc has already proven that they can make it through an airline training program and will have experience in CRM, multi crew environment, 121 regs, 121 operations, advanced aircraft systems, etc.
No one mentioned anything about entitlements. Just the value of experience, which is worth more than the 20k starting salary offered by the regionals.
But someone who has time in a 727 or 737 or A320 etc has already proven that they can make it through an airline training program and will have experience in CRM, multi crew environment, 121 regs, 121 operations, advanced aircraft systems, etc.
No one mentioned anything about entitlements. Just the value of experience, which is worth more than the 20k starting salary offered by the regionals.
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09-01-2013 | 01:30 PM
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This post shows a real disconnect with what has been happening with the 'regionals' over the last 5-10 years. Compass has many pilots with international PIC time from ATA, 20+ year military retirees, current military reservists flying fighters, heavy cargo, etc in very hostile situations, and almost everyone at the company has at least one prior 121 airline on their résumé. They are NOT coming from anything close to a 172, and if that's what you really think then you really aren't aware of who exactly is flying around all those 'regional' airliners.
Most people leave the regionals for the jobs you mentioned, not the other way around.
Your comments give me hope that there will in fact be a pilot shortage at the majors. All those guys will be leaving to go fly for Compass!
09-01-2013 | 01:32 PM
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09-01-2013 | 01:36 PM
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No, you are just choosing to ignore my point about the experience level of regional guys. There are MANY people with as much or more experience than someone with 727 right seat time. Of course no one in their right mind will come to Compass over any legacy, major, LCC, national carrier etc. But not everyone there is just some guy with 1501 hours straight out of the pattern in a 172 with no clue what's going on.
09-01-2013 | 01:52 PM
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No, you are just choosing to ignore my point about the experience level of regional guys. There are MANY people with as much or more experience than someone with 727 right seat time. Of course no one in their right mind will come to Compass over any legacy, major, LCC, national carrier etc. But not everyone there is just some guy with 1501 hours straight out of the pattern in a 172 with no clue what's going on.
My bad.
09-02-2013 | 04:42 AM
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You mean that temporary agreement to fly for them until 2016? They could do that or park them immediately. Now they get parked in 2016 and SKYW has a foot in the door to bid for E175 flying for your side. Get it now?
09-02-2013 | 10:32 AM
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IF PSA gets the new airframes they've been talking about...would be quite quick here as well. Currently 6 year upgrade, could go down to 3 or less if we get 40 some odd airplanes.
My buddy there says a lot of people jumping and celebrating new planes. But for what will you guys give away? Pay? Benefits?
Are you guys will lower the bar for planes? Or are going to stay strong? All the regionals need us, there's no time for concessions...
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