Logbook Adding up
12-12-2006 | 03:24 PM
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Logbook Adding up
So I have a couple addition errors in my logbook. It ends up being about 1 hour off when you add day plus night. Somehow I made a mistake, but I want my logbook to be neat for interviews. Do these need to add up to the decimal and should I add a records correction. This is really a pain!
12-12-2006 | 03:34 PM
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I think you'd be better off correcting and having everything proper than having everything look nice and neat yet not add up.
Don't use white out. Line it out, correct and initial the change. May look a little cluttered but then there's no question of how and why you made the change.
Don't use white out. Line it out, correct and initial the change. May look a little cluttered but then there's no question of how and why you made the change.
12-12-2006 | 03:35 PM
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So I have a couple addition errors in my logbook. It ends up being about 1 hour off when you add day plus night. Somehow I made a mistake, but I want my logbook to be neat for interviews. Do these need to add up to the decimal and should I add a records correction. This is really a pain!
In addition to day/night, make sure AMEL + ASEL = TT. This is the really obvious one to check (assuming no glider/helo/ballon time/sea time) .
12-12-2006 | 03:36 PM
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Never hurts to have things "add" up correctly. However, I don't think a few tenths or so off would raise any red flags.
But then again, it sort of contradicts a potential statement you might use during the interview; "I am a perfectionist . . . blah blah blah"
But then again, it sort of contradicts a potential statement you might use during the interview; "I am a perfectionist . . . blah blah blah"
12-12-2006 | 05:15 PM
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It should add up perfectly. You can correct things like this by making a "journal entry"...make an entry with todays date, add or subtract the error amount from the appropriate columns, and make a note as to what the error was and what date iit occurred on. Nice and neat, no need to white-out numerous pages. .
I *think* most logbook reviews are just looking for big-time fabrication, though (I can't believe people do this, but they do, and by all reports, regularly).
12-12-2006 | 05:46 PM
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my logbook doesnt add up, and im going off the advice of an old boss when i used to work a cash register (and probably make about the same as now)
"its normal for the drawer to be a few cents off, its when everything adds up perfectly that I start to get suspicious
"its normal for the drawer to be a few cents off, its when everything adds up perfectly that I start to get suspicious
12-12-2006 | 06:40 PM
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Strongly agree that this is the best way to do it. Additionally, when I started realizing that I needed to clean my logbook up for interviews, I went and got a shareware logbook download ( http://www.avlogbook.com/ ) for my Palm and actually sat down and entered every... single... entry into it in one long afternoon in front of the TV. The effort paid off, though- ONE clean correction on ONE line of my logbook, and guaranteed audit-proof.
I *think* most logbook reviews are just looking for big-time fabrication, though (I can't believe people do this, but they do, and by all reports, regularly).
I *think* most logbook reviews are just looking for big-time fabrication, though (I can't believe people do this, but they do, and by all reports, regularly).
12-12-2006 | 07:02 PM
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I actually just entered my entire logbook into an excel spreadsheet. It's caught my errors for each page, but I'm not going to mark out each page total and change it now. That would be very messy. The good thing is that my total time all adds up correctly. Its just that my day time, there a quite a few mistakes. Now they've ended up being to cancel each other out, and now everything adds up. But now a couple times fowarded are off. And thats simply because I was dumb and wrote down 17.5 when it was really 17.0, and that messes up everything after that. I just not going to correct every page total going back, because that would get messy.
12-12-2006 | 07:09 PM
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Good call. I caught mine pretty early and only had to change a couple boxes on a couple pages. Came down to a simple math error early in my training. Since then I've learned to double check before I write down my totals. Also have an electronic logbook to make sure that everything adds up the same.
12-12-2006 | 07:13 PM
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