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Old 12-26-2013 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by djrogs03
The award doesn't lie...we have 575 pilots on the seniority list...
I don't think those numbers have been cleared of people leaving for a while. My number from that list and my actual seniority number differ by 50. The number flica shows when bidding is much more accurate.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by emb145
You are correct that the current company proposal blows and isn't ok in current form. I did quote the wrong post from Mason. Just checking to see if he has heard anything.
How about if we hear something from ALPA rather than from some internet character?

The silence of ALPA is astonishing…..
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Old 12-26-2013 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
How about if we hear something from ALPA rather than from some internet character?

The silence of ALPA is astonishing…..
What silence, the MEC chairman sent a blast on Friday, he has also sent email with the commuter issues. NY and ORD sent blast and you had the holiday mid week. The MEC is set to met on 2 Jan in DFW to decide how to proceed with the proposal, this is after the pilots give the LEC their thoughts by email. I believe they have kept us up to date with what is happening. The company wants answers prior to the 14th the same date that the EXJ vote happens to close. We are taking our time and there is no need to rush, we have a contract that still has 7 years before it's amendable.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 06:41 AM
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Me thinks the MEC will send this to the pilot group for a vote.

It will pass.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 06:42 AM
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What silence, the MEC chairman sent a blast on Friday, he has also sent email with the commuter issues. NY and ORD sent blast and you had the holiday mid week. The MEC is set to met on 2 Jan in DFW to decide how to proceed with the proposal, this is after the pilots give the LEC their thoughts by email. I believe they have kept us up to date with what is happening. The company wants answers prior to the 14th the same date that the EXJ vote happens to close. We are taking our time and there is no need to rush, we have a contract that still has 7 years before it's amendable.
They may be meeting with APA on the 2nd.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bzzt
They may be meeting with APA on the 2nd.
I am not certain if this is what Mason was alluding to, but I can tell you that unlike the last MEC whom was comprised of company men, this group of guys won't sell us down the river. The last MEC thrived on division and would never allow talks with APA even if it was to get ideas and comparing notes.

Eagle pilots are not stupid, we are vulnurable and the other pilot are salivating at us failing and them getting the flying. Just go read all the post around here with guys saying that they might get AA flying if Eagle fails.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Me thinks the MEC will send this to the pilot group for a vote.

It will pass.
I don't think it will go to a pilot group. NY and DFW will vote against this current deal, this is a bad deal for the senior guys and the boys at the academy won't like it. Don't know how the MIA guys will vote vote and the ORD guys believe in placing anything in the pilot's hands. I think this deal is dead on the MECs' hands. But there will be negotiations taking place in Jan, if we vote it won't be until likely March and we will probably see Ejets awarded to someone else as they will say we took to long and they need the airplanes Early in 2015. There will be airplanes awarded to someone else in my opinion to put further pressure.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 07:00 AM
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I don't think it will go to a pilot group. NY and DFW will vote against this current deal, this is a bad deal for the senior guys and the boys at the academy won't like it. Don't know how the MIA guys will vote vote and the ORD guys believe in placing anything in the pilot's hands. I think this deal is dead on the MECs' hands. But there will be negotiations taking place in Jan, if we vote it won't be until likely March and we will probably see Ejets awarded to someone else as they will say we took to long and they need the airplanes Early in 2015. There will be airplanes awarded to someone else in my opinion to put further pressure.
I agree, they want them now!!! Well they should awarded them before, is just part of the game on making pressure so more senior guys leave. They will do whatever they want no matter how we vote...

Its all part of the plan, I keep remembering they saying to the judge that eagle will do 60% of the feed. I think that currently we are doing more than 60%.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
I agree, they want them now!!! Well they should awarded them before, is just part of the game on making pressure so more senior guys leave. They will do whatever they want no matter how we vote...

Its all part of the plan, I keep remembering they saying to the judge that eagle will do 60% of the feed. I think that currently we are doing more than 60%.
That was 60% of the AA feed, but with AA and US Airways merging and SCOPE tightening regarding to the total number of huls at the regionals we will see Eagle and many of the regionals shrink, don't be fooled by some regionals seeing a little growth today, this is the largest regionals will be, the regionals will be at least 25% of what they are today by 2016. Back to topic, Eagle has roughly 230 airframes and the SCOPE will likely lead to sub 500 airframes come 2016 at AA. So basically AE does 50% the AA-US feed, you will see Eagle shrink no matter what.
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Old 12-26-2013 | 07:38 AM
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Any news about the displacements coming soon?
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