Thought the deadline was tomorrow.

 

It is! But we don't have to abide by the deadline, I am sure we will get an Eaglewire how disappointing it is that the MEC couldn't accommodate the deadline and that American is now pursuing other avenues for the aircraft. Or since we are engaged with them they might just continue working at it.

 

Agreed. With a displacement bid to follow.

 

I really wanted the company to see reason in this negotiation even though I knew it was a long shot. I hope everyone comes out of this on their feet. I can't see a reason why a FO would stay at eagle anymore, awful BK contract, shrinking fleet, meager flow percentage. My advice to anyone outside the 824 is to get out ASAP even if it's a lateral move.

 

Not likely. The majority there are meek lambs who are incapable of acting in self defense. If they were sailors, they would go down with the ship sobbing like schoolgirls even if a lifeboat was within reach. I've heard at least 4 of the domicile reps are not only willing to sell the pilots down the river, but are actually eager to do it because they are trembling in fear and desperately want to go home and be left alone.

Supposedly one was seen behind the building in Euless on break banging his head against the concrete wall and another was in the mens room with his hands pressed tightly against his ears saying, "la-la-la-la-la-la" when one of the visiting pilots asked him for an explanation. A third has called home several times repeating that he "misses his mommy".

In all seriousness though, the stories I'm hearing are pathetic.

 

Those stories probably aren't far from the truth. The ORD reps are about as pathetic as they come, wouldn't surprise me if the FO rep was calling home to mommy and the CA rep was sitting on the can crying.

I don't understand why they're even entertaining this proposal. 60 aircraft is a ~75% reduction in aircraft at Eagle. So they want us to take concessions to reduce the flying tremendously...does not compute.

If you're senior, this place will be here long enough for you to transfer to AA even if their plan is to shut it down. If you're a junior CA you're going to get your PIC time regardless and people will be hiring. In both those circumstances a "yes" vote doesn't gain you anything.

From the FO side no matter what the outcome is you won't be upgrading for years, let alone flowing which could take the better part of a decade. They're either going to shrink us drastically and make you work for pathetic wages under poor work rules, or shut you down over time. Either way you're not in a good position.

There is no incentive to vote yes from any position on the seniority list. Just get out, burn it down.

 

The pilots won't be burning it down, management will. They plan to burn it down to NO MORE than 60 airplanes regardless. It's just with a new contract, they can do it FASTER. Some of the reps are so petrified of the junkyard dog brought in to frighten them (glass), that they can't think straight anymore.

Then again, didn't some of the same reps vote FOR the B-scale when the junkyard dog wasn't even known and didn't they vote for the current contract out of trembling fear at what management said they MIGHT do in bankruptcy court ?

Some of them are going to need someone to walk them home and hold their hands after they are done begging for mercy. God, what an embarrassment.