What would it take to bring you back?
04-23-2014 | 05:39 AM
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Joking, or you mean $140k? Some regional captains already make twice that, I hear it is possible to break six figures if you try at some of the better companies (XJT for example). From what I can tell, being a regional lifer is not a low paying job necessarily, it just sucks not having a future at a major without random luck playing the main role in getting the job.
04-23-2014 | 05:56 AM
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The sad thing was that at one point in time, folks could bank on a career at a commuter/regional. Think of places like Air Wisconsin, Rocky Mountain Airways, Comair, or even American Eagle.
IMHO, the thing that destroyed the regional dream was the constant bidding for flying. The only way to get it back is either mainline ownership with scope protection (American Eagle before bankruptcy) or bring the flying back in house at the majors.
IMHO, the thing that destroyed the regional dream was the constant bidding for flying. The only way to get it back is either mainline ownership with scope protection (American Eagle before bankruptcy) or bring the flying back in house at the majors.
Joking, or you mean $140k? Some regional captains already make twice that, I hear it is possible to break six figures if you try at some of the better companies (XJT for example). From what I can tell, being a regional lifer is not a low paying job necessarily, it just sucks not having a future at a major without random luck playing the main role in getting the job.
04-23-2014 | 05:57 AM
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Even better (although silly looking), a group of pilots wearing a t-shirt that says "I can fly that thing but not for welfare wages" at every gate where an RJ or turboprop cancels due to lack of crew.
04-23-2014 | 06:00 AM
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Joking, or you mean $140k? Some regional captains already make twice that, I hear it is possible to break six figures if you try at some of the better companies (XJT for example). From what I can tell, being a regional lifer is not a low paying job necessarily, it just sucks not having a future at a major without random luck playing the main role in getting the job.
04-23-2014 | 06:18 AM
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Joking, or you mean $140k? Some regional captains already make twice that, I hear it is possible to break six figures if you try at some of the better companies (XJT for example). From what I can tell, being a regional lifer is not a low paying job necessarily, it just sucks not having a future at a major without random luck playing the main role in getting the job.
40K year one at a regional to me would be acceptable.
04-23-2014 | 06:32 AM
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My 1st year as an engineer was 50k years ago, so why would a pilot be paid less to start?
04-23-2014 | 06:52 AM
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I made 60+k as a restaurant manager before I was a pilot. Why shouldn't it be 60k?
I know correctional officers with no college degree with only a few years on the job making 60, 70k with 6 weeks vacation and a pension at 20 years. I could go on and on with this.
Fact of the matter is that 40k first year would bring people to the profession that otherwise would not come back, or even start. I would also hope that with the 40k first year pay regional FO wages could reach 60 or 70k with seniority.
04-23-2014 | 07:04 AM
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This right here. It's the elephant in the corner of the room. It will have to involve the pilots at majors swallowing their egos and management understanding that it will save them from their mistake of outsourcing to the lowest bidder. We all fly the same passengers, put it all under one umbrella.
The decision makers of the airline industry will decide what parts of the industry to keep and what parts to dispose of altogether.
04-23-2014 | 07:54 AM
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It's about double what it is now. I'd say thats going in the right direction.
I made 60+k as a restaurant manager before I was a pilot. Why shouldn't it be 60k?
I know correctional officers with no college degree with only a few years on the job making 60, 70k with 6 weeks vacation and a pension at 20 years. I could go on and on with this.
Fact of the matter is that 40k first year would bring people to the profession that otherwise would not come back, or even start. I would also hope that with the 40k first year pay regional FO wages could reach 60 or 70k with seniority.
I made 60+k as a restaurant manager before I was a pilot. Why shouldn't it be 60k?
I know correctional officers with no college degree with only a few years on the job making 60, 70k with 6 weeks vacation and a pension at 20 years. I could go on and on with this.
Fact of the matter is that 40k first year would bring people to the profession that otherwise would not come back, or even start. I would also hope that with the 40k first year pay regional FO wages could reach 60 or 70k with seniority.
Further, one might think that if the industry wants to keep doing business this way, it will have to change. But the truth is the industry can't continue to do business this way and expect to have a marketable product.
The way business is going to be done will have to change. It has to. I'm glad to see unions from a variety of regional airlines starting to pull together. Every group in the airlines is represented by an association of some kind (not a union), why should airline pilots be any different.
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