So it's the same thing the mec turned down before?

Nothing officially has popped up in my email yet so I am not even sure this is true. Could be all speculation.

How about you all just vote no?

Simple enough right?

I'm thinking it's going to pass by over 60%.

Whats going to influence people, fear or hope?

Two realities are obvious.

A. Eagle........er, Envoy pilots really don't have a union. Not really.

Individual MEC's aren't there to either rubber stamp every proposal that's put before them or to allow ALPA national to make decisions for them, yet here they do.

That is NOT a functional union.

B. ALPA national is corrupt to the bone. All one has to do is read the TWA lawsuit info to see that. Yet, here once again, they are demonstrating a dictatorial paternalism not unlike that of Vlad Putin and pressuring individual MEC members from voting their choice and forcing them to abstain from any vote.

Despicable and repugnant. The Airline Pilots Association should be dissolved and banned from the U.S. That's not likely, so unfortunately tens of thousands of suckers will have to continue line their pockets with their hard earned money and support this vile conduct for the forseeable future.

NY LEC Facebook page post from the LEC CA Rep
 

(Copy-Pasted from Facebook)

RI: The company does not think we accurately represent the real wishes of the pilots.
We have been ineffective at gaining any real significant improvements because they don't think we actually represent the majority.
They are prepared to send a batch of planes to another carrier, which is something we always knew they could try. We lost over 110 pilots since new year. If they do award that contract - even if the other airline can't staff it NEXT YEAR - what happens to Eagle in the meantime?
They refuse to negotiate improvements beyond this since they don't think we accurately represent the majority.
This is your chance to tell them we DO represent you, and that when we told them concessions won't fly, we meant it.

You sir have no merit on this forum. You and captkrunch are not welcome.

You work at psa, not eagle. So how would you know anything?

Duh, OF COURSE they don't think the MEC represents the minority because that isn't in their best interest. It's MANAGEMENT that's saying this. So now, it seems that the MANAGEMENT of Envoy is now deciding what the ALPA MEC does there ?

Jesus, they are totally out of control. :eek: