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spaaks 03-07-2014 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1597611)
You work at psa, not eagle. So how would you know anything?

they all (PSA) want someone else to take concessions so they don't have to feel so bad about stabbing everyone else in the back!

PDTpilotXX 03-07-2014 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1597836)
they all (PSA) want someone else to take concessions so they don't have to feel so bad about stabbing everyone else in the back!

^^^^this...

Swedish Blender 03-07-2014 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by boiler07 (Post 1597632)
3 in favor

6 Abstaining

There is more than meets the eye

I would think the 6 have a lot of explaining to do. What were they threatened with to change their votes from "NO". Why change when it's obvious the company wants a deal. Make a better offer then send it to the rank and file. All rhetorical. I'm sure none of the six will answer.

35Right 03-07-2014 10:31 PM

The DFW reps mentioned the 6 abstainees didn't vote because they considered the AIP to already be dead, but to silence managements claim they weren't allowing the pilots to speak they decided to allow the pilots to crush it once and for all. Their option was to either vote yes, or abstain in that case.

AllisonRR 03-08-2014 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by 35Right (Post 1597874)
The DFW reps mentioned the 6 abstainees didn't vote because they considered the AIP to already be dead, but to silence managements claim they weren't allowing the pilots to speak they decided to allow the pilots to crush it once and for all. Their option was to either vote yes, or abstain in that case.

Why???? that doesn't make any sense. Who forced them? This is so frustrating

Think about this if they knew that this was (is) a big POS why not block it again? Why do they care what management says? They need to come out with the truth we deserve that.

buddies8 03-08-2014 03:31 AM

because your ORD and Trng reps are working against the pilots and are working for management while keeping union leadership positions. They are the problem, they carry the ball for the company, they are the traitors to the pilots.

meyers9163 03-08-2014 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 1597849)
I would think the 6 have a lot of explaining to do. What were they threatened with to change their votes from "NO". Why change when it's obvious the company wants a deal. Make a better offer then send it to the rank and file. All rhetorical. I'm sure none of the six will answer.

AE on the back burner....


What the hell are elected representatives not voting for? I wasn't aware constitution and bylaws would allow such? You get put in place to make though calls. This is one you vote on because you were elected to do such....

I know when PSA went through this there were a 2 in favor and 4 not willing to say "Yes" they support a yes vote.... Somehow it got turned into you can put it to a pilots vote and also not support it at the same time? I think that ended up getting 4-2..... Anyway I think, as much as I support ALPA, these bylaws need looked at..... Had it not been "muddy" I know PSAs TYS/DAY reps would have continued their no support stand...

However this exact crap occurred allowing it to go to vote without a true endorsement of it by the MEC.

seafeye 03-08-2014 04:56 AM

If It doesn't pass. Airways will comair you.
If it does pass, you sold out.

Pick your poison.

wiz5422 03-08-2014 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by seafeye (Post 1597953)
If It doesn't pass. Airways will comair you.
If it does pass, you sold out.

Pick your poison.

I am sorry to tell you; being comaired isn't a poison when you value your profession and future by standing up for what is right. No wonder PSA sold out with this way of thinking.

Westerner 03-08-2014 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 1597836)
they all (PSA) want someone else to take concessions so they don't have to feel so bad about stabbing everyone else in the back!

With all the Eagle pilot bluster towards PSA for taking concessions. What happens if Eagle pilots pass the new AIP? Is it still PSA pilots fault or will Eagle pilots now hate themselves and deny themselves jumpseats?


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