The MEC caved to national pressure and is passing the AIP to a pilot vote. Details still coming in. What a bunch of pu$$!es.

 

Again? ***! You need to recall your reps now!

 

APLA National applied a lot of pressure. Another example of how ALPA National is not looking out for regional pilots.

 

id like to see some sources.... it totally contradicts what ALPA national and Lee Moak have been saying recently. I was thinking that Moak and National finally felt the pressure and thats why they have been saying that pay needs to increase to AVOID a future shortage.

 

How can that work?

 

So if the AIP is released for a vote from the pilot group, and it's an overwhelming NO, wouldn't that be an ever more forceful rejection of the AIP than a close vote of the MEC?

Said another way, maybe the NO voters on the MEC just see this as a way to communicate a louder NO.

In short, why is sending a poor AIP to the pilot group automatically assumed to be a negative?

 

Whats the point of having an MEC then?

 

That's certainly the other side of the argument to be sure, I'm just pointing out that the voice of the vast majority of 2,000+ pilots voting NO can be a lot louder than a 5-4 MEC vote of NO.

(I think that's what the vote was anyway, I'm not an Eagle guy)

 

My question then is, Are the MEC officers voting on whether to send it to the pilots or are they voting on the premise that the AIP is flawed and it would need to be better? Or is it a combination thereof?

 

you have to think of this from management's perspective. If the MEC votes it down then the company does not have a window into how much their proposal has to be modified in order to get a majority vote from pilots. From our side, if we vote it down 80% to 20 then the company knows their proposal is nowwhere close to passing but if we vote no 51% to 49% the company know they only need to sweeten it enough to get another 1.1% to vote yes. that less than 15 pilots who need to change their vote. It like we are showing our hand. We called the company's bluff and raised, now it up to them to fold or reraise. If we go with a pilot vote they have a pretty good idea whats in our hand and can but accordingly. I prefer them to be in the dark! I dont care what they offer, Im voting NO We already signed an 8yr deal with a fleet plan promise so thats it. No airplanes then no talks, when is this pilot group gonna realize that the company has to do something, anything to prove their word is good. They'll park airplanes to let me flow, yeah right!!!