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Old 03-21-2014, 11:30 AM
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A friend of mine that interviewed there recently said the recruiter told them, we may see DECs pretty soon. Anyone that already work there, have you heard the same?

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Old 03-21-2014, 11:36 AM
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A friend of mine that interviewed there recently said the recruiter told them, we may see DECs pretty soon. Anyone that already work there, have you heard the same?

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Not a chance. There are still dozens of senior FOs who are qualified and waiting their turn. Unless the company plans on retaining FOs by using bypass pay instead of the failed LOA to raise their pay, it is highly unlikely.

For the record, since the company is now doling out CA pay to the senior FOs, if they hire more DECs, all FOs should be getting CA pay rates.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:57 AM
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Not a chance. There are still dozens of senior FOs who are qualified and waiting their turn. Unless the company plans on retaining FOs by using bypass pay instead of the failed LOA to raise their pay, it is highly unlikely.

For the record, since the company is now doling out CA pay to the senior FOs, if they hire more DECs, all FOs should be getting CA pay rates.
Agreed, highly unlikely. However, the Company MUST do something to attract pilots. We've given them some ideas of how to do it... we'll just have to wait and see what they decide.

As for bypass pay, the Company firmly believes it's one-for-one. The language for bypass pay reads:
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A Pilot will be pay protected when a junior Pilot is advanced to his new Status (Base, Equipment Type and Seat Position) before a more senior Pilot is advanced to the same Status.
The Company's logic is that "a" is defined as "used with units of measurement to mean one such unit." They argue that it if bypass pay were to apply to all pilots senior to one such junior pilot in a higher paying status, the language should read "Any/All/Every pilot will be pay protected when a junior pilot..."
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Agreed, highly unlikely. However, the Company MUST do something to attract pilots. We've given them some ideas of how to do it... we'll just have to wait and see what they decide.

As for bypass pay, the Company firmly believes it's one-for-one. The language for bypass pay reads:
The Company's logic is that "a" is defined as "used with units of measurement to mean one such unit." They argue that it if bypass pay were to apply to all pilots senior to one such junior pilot in a higher paying status, the language should read "Any/All/Every pilot will be pay protected when a junior pilot..."
Sorry if that was covered on the conference calls, missed the last few...my bad.
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Old 03-21-2014, 02:57 PM
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Sorry if that was covered on the conference calls, missed the last few...my bad.
No sweat, it wasn't covered. That's just my understanding of the Company's logic.
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Old 03-21-2014, 08:41 PM
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DEC's are doubtful for now. Some of the DEC's from the last hiring stint will more than likely be downgraded for a short time once CLE closes as a base and there is a new system staffing bid.
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Agreed, highly unlikely. However, the Company MUST do something to attract pilots. We've given them some ideas of how to do it... we'll just have to wait and see what they decide.

As for bypass pay, the Company firmly believes it's one-for-one. The language for bypass pay reads:
The Company's logic is that "a" is defined as "used with units of measurement to mean one such unit." They argue that it if bypass pay were to apply to all pilots senior to one such junior pilot in a higher paying status, the language should read "Any/All/Every pilot will be pay protected when a junior pilot..."
This is straight out of Republic's "how to demoralize and screw over pilots" play book.
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So Carl which base will you go to after CLE closes?
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:05 AM
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So Carl which base will you go to after CLE closes?
The one where I hold a line
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:12 AM
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When do all the 1900s get parked? How many saabs flying? Does silver do fee-for-departure, or at risk selling their own tickets type flying?
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