So Eagles closes today and now RAH is extending a week? Are these ballot issues confirmed? Or are they playing games trying to get people to change their votes.

Where are all those PSA guys stating that we didn't have the intestinal fortitude to vote this down. Didn't someone say we were hiding behind our MEC?

PSA, proud to swallow all the way to 2023.

Thanks Eagle. 4300 pilots at ASA/XJT stand with you. 7000 pilots are saying no more! Our own MEC said it couldn't happen!

This delay is interesting, but I think it works in the pilot's favor. The original date was set before eagle set theirs on the same day. Obviously eagle didn't want rah's vote to influence their vote. But with eagle voting 70% no, the rah guys still teetering on the fence should be easily swayed to a no, and lots of yes voters changing to no. Honestly I'd be surprised at anything less than 75-80% no after these results.
The tide has turned.

We owe XJT a great deal on this.

Way to go Eagle, thank you.

What now needs to happen if alpa can start putting pressure on the likes of Mesa so that they are not given more flying as a punishment for standing up against poor pay. Congrats and good luck I know it was hard to do what you believe was right risking your income and career progression

Congratulations and great job guys!:D

Didn't the Mesa MEC say it was every man for himself? If true these guys are complete d-bags.

Sounds like JO's kinda guy.

Back on topic, congrats to the Eagle guys and gals!

No real problem with that? All that new metal may end up at American then. If it costs American and Eagle nearly the same cost to fly them, then there is no point in flying them at Eagle right?

Thanks Eagle (and XJT)!

Well done! Spirit pilots salute you.

Great news! Way to go Eagle guys n gals! Thankfully another management group has tripped and fallen in the race to the bottom.

Its a definite that there are major ballot issues on the RAH side. Several pilots received the ballot information for themselves and another pilot. They had no choice but to extend the window because so many people had still not received their ballot. I do think they are hoping guys will switch their votes to a yes vote (Who's ever heard of being able to change your vote?) but I doubt it will happen with Eagle voting no.

True. That's if they don't decide to give the flying to another regional (Skywest). I was just simply stating that this has to be a battle fought at both the regional and major levels. Obvious, I know, but all it takes is one regional pilot group to operate cheap and there goes the game plan. And right now I can think of over half a dozen that do just that, and will for the foreseeable future.

Great job Eagle! Too bad PSA didn't have the cojones to do the same thing. Speaking of which, looks like they've been quiet on this thread...

As Eagle pilots we could change our votes as many times as we wanted right up until the ballots closed.

Stand strong RAH pilots. EGL+XJT+RAH all saying No! = approximately 10,000 regional pilots telling management: FUPM!

Lets go RAH... Trifecta!

Way to go Eagle! "Salute"

Every ALPA vote in recent memory, FYI.

so great to hear, congrads guys !

Congrats Eagle folks. I commend your solidarity. It's time to get paid what we are worth. I hope RAH takes a stand against the machine as well.

Don't forget about Silver.

Good job Eagle! Way to hold the line!

AA pilots fought all the way to the second time the vote visited their contract. It was then abolished in bk, they continue to fight! I understand that AE got jets in the 90's and there has been concessions made by other mainlines but let's not paint them all with the same brush.

Congrats for holding strong...

The next generation of pilots will owe a thanks to you guys & the XJT guys..

Bloody outstanding job, ladies and gents.


On behalf of Horizon pilots, congratulations and thank you!

Well done gents. I had a chance to speak with a few of you last week at an event and was promised this outcome.

It's your turn RP!

Eagle STRONG! Congrats guys. You're welcome on my jumpseat any day. Wish I was at the airport, I would go out of my way to find one of you guys.

-xjt

For those commenting about RAH and their ability to change their vote once casted, the system that ALPA used at AE allowed for a pilot to change his/her vote as many times as they wished all the way down to the last second before polls closed.

You should have seen how many letters ended with, you can change your vote and I urge you to vote yes, be a wiener and vote yes!

I hate to break up the party, but you guys are dreaming if you think other Regionals won't take this flying in a nano-second.

At the end of the day it is not up to the pilots or their respective Unions what flying they accept. If Mesa, Republic, Piedmont, or ExpressJet accept "Eagle" flying the pilots will have no choice. They will perform that flying.

The only thing 70% of Eagle guys are counting on is the mythical pilot shortage. Many of you will learn-yet again- that every time a pilot shortage is looming pilots appear from somewhere. Whoever is awarded this flying will have the staffing. One way or another.

Well done Eagle people... for the 2nd damn time.

Republic people, you're up next.

Signed,
XJT person.

ExpressJet already told their company to shove their disrespectful offer up their @$$.

Most excellent, Eagle guys! Batter up, Republic-folk, knock BB out with a big, fat NO.

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So what you are saying is that we should have voted yes to undercut those airlines trying to undercut us? Is that what you meant? In regionals we have phrase for this "race to bottom". Or better explained, the opposite of your handle.. Ground Vector!

Of course they will. However, the point is that no pilot group is accepting concessions in order to aid and abet their airline in doing so. Some airlines are just run more efficiently than others and that's where the competition should be.

Great job EGL guys. Congrats and thank you.


PSA you guys are collectively the biggest group of morons in the regional industry.

Great job eagle.

Well done Eagle pilots!

Time for us to reverse the race to the bottom. Expressjet lit the fire, then passed the flame to Eagle. Republic pilots, your vote is very important. We are finally starting to see some unity. You're not just voting for yourselves, but for the regional industry as a whole. Stand strong!

You haven't prevented a race to the bottom. AA will award flying to another Regional with much lower costs and no career progression.

That Regional will stumble over themselves to accept that flying. The pilots will pretend to be "reluctantly" performing those flights while really excited at flying an American Eagle E-175. Most if not all of your junior FOs will bail for these other Regionals who are getting the new flying. Your mid-level FOs will stagnate while junior Captains will displace back to FO.

So what have you accomplished, exactly? Had this been voted through you would have had AA on the hook for 170 aircraft MINIMUM which is far beyond any fleet guarantee that any Regional has.

If/When staffing became an issue AA would have had no choice but to raise first year pay.

So again, what have you accomplished? I know many of you are real giddy right now. It always feels good to poke management in the eye. But you need to realize the concepts of "unity" don't exist in the way you hope.