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Old 03-28-2014 | 08:57 AM
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For those commenting about RAH and their ability to change their vote once casted, the system that ALPA used at AE allowed for a pilot to change his/her vote as many times as they wished all the way down to the last second before polls closed.

You should have seen how many letters ended with, you can change your vote and I urge you to vote yes, be a wiener and vote yes!
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Old 03-28-2014 | 08:57 AM
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I hate to break up the party, but you guys are dreaming if you think other Regionals won't take this flying in a nano-second.

At the end of the day it is not up to the pilots or their respective Unions what flying they accept. If Mesa, Republic, Piedmont, or ExpressJet accept "Eagle" flying the pilots will have no choice. They will perform that flying.

The only thing 70% of Eagle guys are counting on is the mythical pilot shortage. Many of you will learn-yet again- that every time a pilot shortage is looming pilots appear from somewhere. Whoever is awarded this flying will have the staffing. One way or another.
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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:00 AM
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Well done Eagle people... for the 2nd damn time.

Republic people, you're up next.

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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
I hate to break up the party, but you guys are dreaming if you think other Regionals won't take this flying in a nano-second.

At the end of the day it is not up to the pilots or their respective Unions what flying they accept. If Mesa, Republic, Piedmont, or ExpressJet accept "Eagle" flying the pilots will have no choice. They will perform that flying.

The only thing 70% of Eagle guys are counting on is the mythical pilot shortage. Many of you will learn-yet again- that every time a pilot shortage is looming pilots appear from somewhere. Whoever is awarded this flying will have the staffing. One way or another.
ExpressJet already told their company to shove their disrespectful offer up their @$$.
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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:02 AM
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Most excellent, Eagle guys! Batter up, Republic-folk, knock BB out with a big, fat NO.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Awesome job. Very proud of AE. 2 down 1 to go.
Don't forget about Silver.
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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
I hate to break up the party, but you guys are dreaming if you think other Regionals won't take this flying in a nano-second.

At the end of the day it is not up to the pilots or their respective Unions what flying they accept. If Mesa, Republic, Piedmont, or ExpressJet accept "Eagle" flying the pilots will have no choice. They will perform that flying.

The only thing 70% of Eagle guys are counting on is the mythical pilot shortage. Many of you will learn-yet again- that every time a pilot shortage is looming pilots appear from somewhere. Whoever is awarded this flying will have the staffing. One way or another.
So what you are saying is that we should have voted yes to undercut those airlines trying to undercut us? Is that what you meant? In regionals we have phrase for this "race to bottom". Or better explained, the opposite of your handle.. Ground Vector!
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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
I hate to break up the party, but you guys are dreaming if you think other Regionals won't take this flying in a nano-second.
Of course they will. However, the point is that no pilot group is accepting concessions in order to aid and abet their airline in doing so. Some airlines are just run more efficiently than others and that's where the competition should be.
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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:05 AM
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Great job EGL guys. Congrats and thank you.


PSA you guys are collectively the biggest group of morons in the regional industry.

Great job eagle.
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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:06 AM
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Well done Eagle pilots!

Time for us to reverse the race to the bottom. Expressjet lit the fire, then passed the flame to Eagle. Republic pilots, your vote is very important. We are finally starting to see some unity. You're not just voting for yourselves, but for the regional industry as a whole. Stand strong!
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Old 03-28-2014 | 09:08 AM
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So what you are saying is that we should have voted yes to undercut those airlines trying to undercut us? Is that you meant? Where I come from we call that "the race to the bottom".
You haven't prevented a race to the bottom. AA will award flying to another Regional with much lower costs and no career progression.

That Regional will stumble over themselves to accept that flying. The pilots will pretend to be "reluctantly" performing those flights while really excited at flying an American Eagle E-175. Most if not all of your junior FOs will bail for these other Regionals who are getting the new flying. Your mid-level FOs will stagnate while junior Captains will displace back to FO.

So what have you accomplished, exactly? Had this been voted through you would have had AA on the hook for 170 aircraft MINIMUM which is far beyond any fleet guarantee that any Regional has.

If/When staffing became an issue AA would have had no choice but to raise first year pay.

So again, what have you accomplished? I know many of you are real giddy right now. It always feels good to poke management in the eye. But you need to realize the concepts of "unity" don't exist in the way you hope.
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