Originally Posted by Systemized

No one ever said 36K was a lot of money, it's not. Gold was just pointing out he's on track to gross that amount his first year. I read through his comments and he was not trying boast or state his opinion for that matter. I have a friend that went to skywest, during training he received 60 hours a month at $22/hr with no per diem and shared a hotel room. After training he spent the next 10 months on reserve not breaking guarantee and not flying a lot so not much per diem. He showed me what he made for that first twelve months, including perdiem it was 24K. If anything, what gold posted is more a comparison to other regionals first year pay.

Originally Posted by rcfd13

All of what you just said is true, but would you say PSA is better than Skywest based on that? People need to get over just looking at first year pay. First year pay at the regionals is 1 year of your potential 30+ year career and the way things are going 10 years at the regionals. Almost every regional pays more than Skywest the first year, but not a single one pays more than even the Skywest turboprop 2nd year.[/B]Looking down the road past 2nd year I bet you can't show me any PSA captain who makes more than a Skywest, Expressjet or even Republic Captain.

Originally Posted by Ultralight

Exactly, and as much as this guy is disliked in the industry, you have to give him credit for being honest.

Originally Posted by Coolbeans

I don't understand how Psa contract allows guys to make a lot of money by not working a lot? Is that just going to be something that the leadership will be able to prevent in the future? Also things are good at psa now that you all are hiring like crazy and growing how great will the contract be when the company is properly staffed and the movement of pilots has slowed down? I ask the questions because I was at an airline when I could pick up reserve and make 6 hours of pay, when I could pick up trips at 200 percent. I made a lot of money until it all came crashing down. Please don't think I am hating on psa pilots at all but it is hard to hear guy talking about how great it is there when it APEARS they voted in a concessionary contract. Pilots are selfish by nature and behavior but we try to hide that by all of our talk as being united but when people vote in contracts that only benefit themselves it is hard to swallow.

Originally Posted by Cwils36

I'd be very interested to see how you earned 36 K. I'm barely going to pull in 24 at XJET and I have broken 80 hours every month but 1. I think PSA gets payed better during training but I still don't see how it's possible to make 150% more then what I'm making. Kudos though if true, even though 36 k is a garbage number when you consider the amount of work/money it took to get here.

Originally Posted by pagey

Well, he said he avgs somewhere near 105 hours a month. 36k makes sense at our first year rate if per diem is counted.

This probably can't be done on reserve at PSA but 105 hours is no problem for a line holder, even the most junior one in the company.

Originally Posted by Cwils36

Ahh missed the part about being off reserve quickly, that definitely helps the paycheck. What's the current staffing situation over at PSA? I would assume that only a month on reserve isn't the norm.

Originally Posted by gold

I will end up with about 70ish hours block, 105ish hours credit and 13-14 days off. Those numbers can be higher or lower depending on the adjustments made...