Comair FO makes statement
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From: ERJ CAPT
This is SOP for families of victims after any aircraft accident folks. You start at the top with the guy with the deepest pockets (usually the aircraft manufacturer or the airline) and go on down the list suing anyone who may have possibly been involved. Most of the lawsuits never really go anywhere. Lawyers are not stupid and can see they won't get much from the FO so they are not going to work too hard on that part of the lawsuit. They file the suit because some grieving family member wants their pound of flesh and then let it quietly go away. 30% of nothing is still nothing. It may be sickening but thats what happens when we, as a country, graduate twice as many lawyers as engineers.
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What purpose would that serve?? Other than feeding your primative human psychological need for revenge and make you feel big and powerful, and put a Jaguar and beach house on your list of "cool ****** I own", theres no point. You will be sorely disappointed when it solves none of your problems.
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I'm sorry that I am not an idealist. The bottom line is that there is a HUGE difference between "f*&king up", and killing 49 people. All I am saying is that there must be accountability in this world, whether it was a mistake or not. Sorry if that is rash, but it is a fact of life. Merry Christmas.
ps that comment about the RJ was funny.
ps that comment about the RJ was funny.
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I'm sorry that I am not an idealist. The bottom line is that there is a HUGE difference between "f*&king up", and killing 49 people. All I am saying is that there must be accountability in this world, whether it was a mistake or not. Sorry if that is rash, but it is a fact of life. Merry Christmas.
ps that comment about the RJ was funny.
ps that comment about the RJ was funny.

I can't believe how often you are able to come on here, and prove how disconnected with reality you are. At first I thought you were just a mainline driver ignoring their own generations mistakes, and somehow working out a way to blame RJ drivers for scope being raised. But now I realize how far into space your mind wanders.
I pray that you never make a mistake. I'm sure that this man finds himself "accountable" as you say everyday. It doesn't mean the courts should be coming down on him. You may think you're invincible, but you could've very easily had made the same mistake. But I guess because you fly boxes, your mistakes are forgivable. We will be setting a very dangerous precedent if every time a plane crashes, and pilot error is determined to be the/a cause, we become financially liable to injured survivors and families of fatalities.
I've also noticed HotMamma that you don't seem willing to answer any of my posts asking you how on earth you decided that it's my fault that legacy carriers unions keep giving up more and more scope.
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From: ERJ CAPT
You're sound like a nice person. Wait til you ****** up.
What purpose would that serve?? Other than feeding your primative human psychological need for revenge and make you feel big and powerful, and put a Jaguar and beach house on your list of "cool ****** I own", theres no point. You will be sorely disappointed when it solves none of your problems.
What purpose would that serve?? Other than feeding your primative human psychological need for revenge and make you feel big and powerful, and put a Jaguar and beach house on your list of "cool ****** I own", theres no point. You will be sorely disappointed when it solves none of your problems.
I think some of us are being a bit naive about this. Although there may be a few opportunist involved here, they're also those who lost a huge part of their families income, because of this incident. Maybe the sole breadwinner died in the accident, maybe the issues of choosing between providing income for one's family, and providing childcare are leading to financial ruin. Hopefully, people have insured themselves against these things, but many people under insure themselves because they never consider the true monetary value of their existence. Think about the financial challenges to your family if you were suddenly no longer in the picture. Would you want them to go down the road to poverty, or seek compensation for the damage done to their lifestyle. Yes opportunist exist, so do revenge seekers, but 8/10people are trying to make a responsible decision to provide for their families under difficult circumstances and a huge financial blow to their lives. Remember the legal system is not so much about justice as it is about settling disputes between people.
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Exactly. A 4th year Comair FO makes about $45K. Yea, sounds like he has tons of assets that they can take (extreme sarcasm). The lawyers are greedy and dishonest but they're not stupid. They know this guy basically has no money. Naming him as a defendant only serves as personal harrassment.
In a related story, did you know that in the American civil court system a plaintiff can openly lie and get away with it as long as they're not under oath?? Heres some proof from the lawsuit I'm involved in from my car accident 3.5 years ago: Turns out the accident didn't cause any of the abdominal problems the plaintiff is having. They're all from degenerative disease. In fact, it turns out the plaintiff has a long documented history of abdominal and also psychiatric problems dating back well before the accident. But she and her lawyer claim otherwise in the law suit. There's no way in hell her medical history "slipped her mind" when she filed that suit. She knew exactly what she was doing and that she was making it all up. But because the peperwork involved in filing the suit does not constitute "under oath", she's allowed to get away with the fraud.
As for personal harrassment, it's alot of anxiety for a 21 year old college kid. Just last night I took my first dose of Lexapro (anti-anxiety medication) and my medical is now officially void. I've been forced to give up flying for a year all because a scumbag lawyer agreed to prosicute an openly phony case. I hope all these lawyers get theirs in the afterlife.
In a related story, did you know that in the American civil court system a plaintiff can openly lie and get away with it as long as they're not under oath?? Heres some proof from the lawsuit I'm involved in from my car accident 3.5 years ago: Turns out the accident didn't cause any of the abdominal problems the plaintiff is having. They're all from degenerative disease. In fact, it turns out the plaintiff has a long documented history of abdominal and also psychiatric problems dating back well before the accident. But she and her lawyer claim otherwise in the law suit. There's no way in hell her medical history "slipped her mind" when she filed that suit. She knew exactly what she was doing and that she was making it all up. But because the peperwork involved in filing the suit does not constitute "under oath", she's allowed to get away with the fraud.
As for personal harrassment, it's alot of anxiety for a 21 year old college kid. Just last night I took my first dose of Lexapro (anti-anxiety medication) and my medical is now officially void. I've been forced to give up flying for a year all because a scumbag lawyer agreed to prosicute an openly phony case. I hope all these lawyers get theirs in the afterlife.
Mike, people will always sue and make phony claims. When I was just a couple of years older than you, some guy tried to sue me for a car accident as well. I was on my way to work in the ER and it was pouring rain. Instead of pulling over to the side, the guy in front of me decides to stop suddenly in the center lane of the freeway. As soon as I saw his brake lights, I immediately hit mine, only to find the pedal flopping to the floor in my old car. My brakes had failed, the hydraulic lines had snapped according to the mechanics. Fortunately I was driving at a slow rate of speed because of the hard driving rain and didn't hit him all that hard. Of course, the guy said he had whiplash and other injuries caused by the accident. Someone I knew happened to know the guy I hit and told me that apparently he found out that I was married to an MD. What he didn't know is that my MD husband had just finished medical school, was starting his first year of a four year residency and didn't have a dime to his name. I was working in the ER to pay off his 100 grand in medical school loans.
In addition to his alleged whiplash, he tried to sue me for bone spurs in his elbow, also wanted me to pay for his newly installed jacuzzi that he "needed" for physical therapy, and the new water bed that he bought in order to sleep...LOL...you don't have to be an MD to know that bone spurs aren't caused by an auto accident.
On the day I was served my lawsuit, 2 years later, I happen to be 9 months pregnant with our first son. I was so upset that I went into labor. Try not to let this bother you and just let your insurance company handle it. My insurance company determined that the guy was full of sh*t, threw him a few thousand dollars to make him go away, and that was it. People get sued all the time and like someone else here said, much of the time the lawsuit just fades into oblivion. I would try meditation and yoga first to deal with your anxiety instead of the pills, and let the insurance company's lawyers handle it. That is what you pay your premiums for.
Good luck and Merry Christmas Mike!
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Thanks for the enocuragment skygirl. As you probably read I'm not able to fly for a while because of the anti-anxiety medication, though it's actually not just the lawsuit itself. There's other craziness in my life as well. Even if no medication was involved I would probably still take time off from flying.
Lawsuit fraud is probably one of the most often committed crimes in the US and it's probably one of the least prosecuted. In another post I'll give you all two more personal stories.
There's also a definite ethics problem amongst the legal community. In my case my lawyer met with the plaintiff's lawyer and asked him what this dumb suit was all about. The plaintiff's lawyer said he was just "doing his job". That got me angry, because that's total BS. The only time it's a lawyer's "job" to represent somebody is when they're a public defender. In a provate practice a lawyer has the right to pick and choose his cases, and has an ethical obligation to deny representation to obviously phony clients.
In your case, skygirl, when it was found that the man was completely making everything up he should have been arrested and thrown in jail. As a matter of fact that's the way the law is indeed written, but it's seldom enforced.
I'll go out on a limb and guess the main reason is because EVERYTHING in government is controlled by lawyers. Most elected officials and appointed positions holders (like the police commissioners) are lawyers, and therefore won't prosecute fraud-commiters because they want to help their lawyer buddied make money. It's a tit-for-tat situation and the legal community is a pretty tight-nit group. Just my estimation.
Lawsuit fraud is probably one of the most often committed crimes in the US and it's probably one of the least prosecuted. In another post I'll give you all two more personal stories.
There's also a definite ethics problem amongst the legal community. In my case my lawyer met with the plaintiff's lawyer and asked him what this dumb suit was all about. The plaintiff's lawyer said he was just "doing his job". That got me angry, because that's total BS. The only time it's a lawyer's "job" to represent somebody is when they're a public defender. In a provate practice a lawyer has the right to pick and choose his cases, and has an ethical obligation to deny representation to obviously phony clients.
In your case, skygirl, when it was found that the man was completely making everything up he should have been arrested and thrown in jail. As a matter of fact that's the way the law is indeed written, but it's seldom enforced.
I'll go out on a limb and guess the main reason is because EVERYTHING in government is controlled by lawyers. Most elected officials and appointed positions holders (like the police commissioners) are lawyers, and therefore won't prosecute fraud-commiters because they want to help their lawyer buddied make money. It's a tit-for-tat situation and the legal community is a pretty tight-nit group. Just my estimation.
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Here are two personal storeis involving less-than-ethical lawsuits. The first is not actually fraud, just very tasteless.
My assistant manager at work was involved in a bad car accident a few years ago. He nearly went through the windshield because he wasn't wearing his seatbelt. Had he been wearing it he probably would have walked away. He sued for $200K, but because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt he got only like $35K to pay for scar-correcting sugery. He just pocketed the money instead. He loves to brag about how not wearing his seat belt made him an @$$ load of money.
My aunt told me about this at thanksgiving. Many years ago my aunt had her leg severly injured in car accident. Like my assistant manager, had she been wearing her seat belt the injuries would have been much less severe. She was out of work for about 2 months and had to have a surgery. She tried suing for millions of dollars and openly told me how she wanted to reposses the other person's house
. Thankfully the settlement was within the insurance limit. My aunt claimed she had permanent mobility problems, which is total crap. In 1998 she went to CHINA to adopt a baby. I've known her my whole life and would never have guessed that she has trouble getting around. Mobility problems my @$$!!.
End of rant.
My assistant manager at work was involved in a bad car accident a few years ago. He nearly went through the windshield because he wasn't wearing his seatbelt. Had he been wearing it he probably would have walked away. He sued for $200K, but because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt he got only like $35K to pay for scar-correcting sugery. He just pocketed the money instead. He loves to brag about how not wearing his seat belt made him an @$$ load of money.
My aunt told me about this at thanksgiving. Many years ago my aunt had her leg severly injured in car accident. Like my assistant manager, had she been wearing her seat belt the injuries would have been much less severe. She was out of work for about 2 months and had to have a surgery. She tried suing for millions of dollars and openly told me how she wanted to reposses the other person's house
. Thankfully the settlement was within the insurance limit. My aunt claimed she had permanent mobility problems, which is total crap. In 1998 she went to CHINA to adopt a baby. I've known her my whole life and would never have guessed that she has trouble getting around. Mobility problems my @$$!!.
End of rant.
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I was too busy cuddling and cooing with my beautiful newborn infant son to give the dipsh*t guy anymore of my thought or energy.
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