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Old 06-19-2014 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Doctors, lawyers, managements, Ceo's ect..
None of those examples are people who would be on a seniority list, try again.
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Old 06-19-2014 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I violated no rule.

You deleted my post.

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The OP, disparaging ALPA, had his post edited to make him look more intelligent and informed than he really is.


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Well, at least some get to see the true extent of their dues here, an angry old man barking at the moon times however many HQ can afford. Thanks for that display.
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Old 06-19-2014 | 05:56 PM
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Old 06-19-2014 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Exactly. There's only one guy to blame, the man in the mirror, for taking a $23 an hour job at a regional when you can make $55 an hour other places.
What airline would hire an entry level 1500 h pilot for $55/hour?
I will apply immediately!
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Old 06-20-2014 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
With our present seniority system and the pay scales ALPA helped negotiate, ALPA has been the problem. I feel we would be better served with no union at all. Since that isn't likely, the next best thing would be creating career portability. That would empower all of us and put pressure on the airlines to compete for our services.
First off, ALPA doesn't own company seniority lists. The companies do. So how will ALPA merge seniority lists that ALPA doesn't control?

Second, don't blame only ALPA for the pay rates at the regionals when pilot groups like GoJet, RAH, etc are represented by Teamsters and have done near jack squat to help raise the bar.

It's not as simple as just creating one list.
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Old 06-20-2014 | 11:43 AM
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Spot on, johnso. This is all just an emotional outburst over things he can't control and doesn't even come close to understanding.
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Old 06-20-2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle

Well, at least some get to see the true extent of their dues here, an angry old man barking at the moon times however many HQ can afford. Thanks for that display.

Oh, how sweet. Between this and 80ktsClamp telling me to put my ovaries away, I'm not sure which of you loves me more.






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Old 06-20-2014 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BaronRouge380
What airline would hire an entry level 1500 h pilot for $55/hour?
I will apply immediately!
Yeah cuz that's just a lot of money right there.
Technical degrees fresh out of college starting 60 and above with virtually no skills and NOT saddled with 100K plus debt.
Oh the Humanity!
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Old 06-20-2014 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
First off, ALPA doesn't own company seniority lists. The companies do. So how will ALPA merge seniority lists that ALPA doesn't control?

Second, don't blame only ALPA for the pay rates at the regionals when pilot groups like GoJet, RAH, etc are represented by Teamsters and have done near jack squat to help raise the bar.

It's not as simple as just creating one list.
I don't blame ALPA for my pay rates, I blame ALPA for the paint job on the side of my aircraft. Why does it say Delta, and not Endeavor?
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Old 06-20-2014 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I don't blame ALPA for my pay rates, I blame ALPA for the paint job on the side of my aircraft. Why does it say Delta, and not Endeavor?
Have you asked your management?
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