ATP mins with options
06-20-2014 | 09:40 AM
#21
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If you do the king air for a couple hundred hours of logged time it will give you a backup in the event of a furlough later. King Air time is hard to get and you can never tell when you will need it. I would do the King Air for 6-12 months while working HARD on your degree, then go to a regional.
06-20-2014 | 09:43 AM
#22
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
A little background info:
-Flight Safety CFI grad
-Age:29
-no 4 year college degree (tho I plan on completing this)
-not married/no kids
I ask virtually every pilot I come in contact with their opinion and ultimately they lean towards 121. I hear a lot of "now's the time to get in", and "if I was ur age with that time I would go for airline". Also, I can't help but feel like I'm missing out on seniority not applying now.
-Flight Safety CFI grad
-Age:29
-no 4 year college degree (tho I plan on completing this)
-not married/no kids
I ask virtually every pilot I come in contact with their opinion and ultimately they lean towards 121. I hear a lot of "now's the time to get in", and "if I was ur age with that time I would go for airline". Also, I can't help but feel like I'm missing out on seniority not applying now.
Even overseas jobs prefer crewmember with a college degree.
By they way... take a look at the pathetic pay rates at the regionals. The best part is that you'll probably draw a base in the most expensive parts of the US too.
06-20-2014 | 09:47 AM
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06-20-2014 | 10:11 AM
#25
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This guy is 29 years old....not 21. "Go have fun" I feel is bad advice. You only have a fixed amount of years to be an airline pilot. Why can't he have fun being single and able to use CASS to travel wherever he wants? I'm sure the pay on a 135 KA in south florida is no better and may even be worse than year one regional. Every 135 operator down there is going to tell you "you'll upgrade quick", and are also known for shady practices with maintenance and pay. I flew down there for 4 years.
Also keep in mind that KA90 is not loggable from the right seat except in a few cases. It may be allowed at this operator since it is 135 but make sure you check.
With growth, flows, and other attrition compass should move lightning fast. Leading to good QoL, and pay. Every year you aren't at an airline trying to move to a major is a year you miss on the top end of the payscale.
I never told him to go to PSA. Way to bring up a totally unrelated subject though just to get a shot in. I voted no. Grow up.
Are you really advocating this guy go to Envoy?
Also keep in mind that KA90 is not loggable from the right seat except in a few cases. It may be allowed at this operator since it is 135 but make sure you check.
With growth, flows, and other attrition compass should move lightning fast. Leading to good QoL, and pay. Every year you aren't at an airline trying to move to a major is a year you miss on the top end of the payscale.
I never told him to go to PSA. Way to bring up a totally unrelated subject though just to get a shot in. I voted no. Grow up.
Are you really advocating this guy go to Envoy?
06-20-2014 | 10:30 AM
#26
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Life is a journey, it should be interesting and stimulating, 33 vs 36 years at a 121 airline is moot. The best flying years I had were not in the 121 realm. Go to Alaska and fly a Beaver on floats, go to the Bahamas and fly the Keys, go do something you can look back on when you are sitting in the 121 seat. 121 airline work is, well, at least the paycheck is not too bad......
He can visit the caribbean on his time off.
The safe route is regional.....
Good luck whichever you choose.
06-20-2014 | 10:32 AM
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I have spent the last 16 months as a CFI in South Florida. I have been fortunate enough to be the "head CFI" right under the Chief Pilot. I had a lot of fun flights thrown my way: Bahamas check-out (at least 10), photo flights, Cirrus flights, more times VFR to Key West than I can count. I have had and amazing time but my feeling is that I need to move on. Not to mention the non-vetted Chinese kids are either going to kill me, or get my certificate yanked.
06-20-2014 | 10:34 AM
#28
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From: gear slinger
Shouldn't be a problem at all. I know guys hired at XJT in the last six months with 25 multi, but most regionals require only 50 hours multi. The "100 hr" arbitrary standard is largely a thing of the past.
06-20-2014 | 10:40 AM
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I have spent the last 16 months as a CFI in South Florida. I have been fortunate enough to be the "head CFI" right under the Chief Pilot. I had a lot of fun flights thrown my way: Bahamas check-out (at least 10), photo flights, Cirrus flights, more times VFR to Key West than I can count. I have had and amazing time but my feeling is that I need to move on. Not to mention the non-vetted Chinese kids are either going to kill me, or get my certificate yanked.
06-20-2014 | 11:30 AM
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So we are to think you actually know this is true? What a presumptuous statement. Many of the lifer captains stuck at American regionals are superb pilots who paid more than a fair penance climbing to the left seat. They continue to sweat it out in a tough, underpaying job hoping for a chance to interview at a major one day. Regale us with what you did that was so different and what made your foresight so superior.
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