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Old 07-25-2014 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
yeah I had a similar thought process prior to this week, (my original point). I never really thought about this as a credible threat in the US before. But then again, I never thought that there would be 3 separate incidents in one week of aircraft getting shot down. If I were to have asked you 2 weeks ago if you thought it was a real possibility for some "rebel fighters" to shoot down a 777 above 30,000 ft or to shoot down 2 military fighter jets, I would bet most (including myself) would have said "yeah it's possible, but I doubt it. They don't have the technology for that". My main point is, I think a lot of us are doing the same thing and underestimating potential threats, rebels, terrorists...etc. Thinking "oh they don't have that technology here" or "it may happen over seas, but they won't be able to pull that off on our soil." I don't know much about this kind of military stuff, just my opinion
The Malaysian incident was from an advanced first world vehicle mounted anti AAC system. Using the term "rebel" can confuse the issue, because anyone that's against anyone is a "rebel" but its not the same thing here. Ragtag sleeper cells don't get that kind of equipment. There are other much more portable systems that, while they may not be able to reach crusing FL's, can still get pretty high and go pretty far and that is certainlly a threat. Especially when we are in a race to become borderless.
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Old 07-30-2014 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Well yeah, and they could get death star tractor beams too.

Attempting to equate crude RPG's that can barely hit something close range and stationary with advanced anti aircraft guided missile systems is quite a leap.

Of course that's a threat, but it has nothing to do with RPG's.
apparently somebody gets what I was talking about

The Airline Threat No One's Talking About - Bloomberg View

The missiles -- known as Manpads, for Man-Portable Air Defense Systems -- don't have the range of the weapon that shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Ukraine. But they've been variously described as a "game changer," "our worst nightmare" and "an unprecedented threat." They're cheap, portable and potentially devastating to low-flying planes. Since 1975, they've hit civilian aircraft 40 times by one estimate, killing about 800 people.

And they're everywhere. As many as 750,000 Manpads are stockpiled around the world. They've turned up among rebel groups from Ukraine to Somalia. A United Nations report found that missiles from a cache in Libya have been dispersed to Mali, Tunisia and other countries. As jihadists -- many of them European -- return home from the wars in Syria and Iraq, these weapons may spread further.
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