Next Stage of Desperation in the Regionals
07-24-2014, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Not really. I misspoke I meant more like under 1,000ft/ a 1/2 mile final
07-24-2014, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
But our biggest obstacle for that isn't management, its ourselves. Even in good times where theres money available and we have the leverage, we always choose to allocate it more towards the top. In due time, this weakens everyone. When things get bad and a seniority list if facing liquidation, they will take any deal to stay alive because no one can afford to start over. This weakens us all in the long run.
If this isn't the best argument for flattening of the pay scales I don't know what is. So much easier to start over at a new carrier.
07-24-2014, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
It would still be a million to one shot. There's some real threats we face, but that ain't one.
highly disagree. especially when you consider that they could get more advanced shoulder fired rockets
07-24-2014, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590
They're takin our jrrrrrrbs!!!!
It's time to have an all out Gay Orgy in front of the White House in protest,
Oh and
"THEY TOOK OUR JERBS!!!!"
But seriously they are probably gonna be spending more money bringing Australians here then just simply raising the wage
07-24-2014, 02:21 PM
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actually the md80 crash in africa this morning was the 4TH aviation accident this week, there was also 2 Ukrainian fighter jets shot down yesterday
Two Ukrainian fighter jets shot down as Kiev accuses Moscow of sending more arms to separatists | Fox News
Two Ukrainian fighter jets shot down as Kiev accuses Moscow of sending more arms to separatists | Fox News
07-24-2014, 03:18 PM
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just like when they spend more money by hiring foreign nurses i.e. bonuses, free tickets back to their home country etc.
here is my 2 cents on "pilot shortage"
i sent my resume' 3 times to silver airways (to hr email address) and never even got an acknowledgement. last month i sent her another email asking for a simple reply just to know that the email address was good or perhaps i needed to apply online thru their website etc... again nothing. come on, silver is offering 12 grand in bonuses and they dont reply?
yesterday i saw "empire airlines" (never heard of them) were looking for atr pilots throughout the country. well shreveport is cheaper to live in than newark ha ha so i applied for that position and i got back an email the next day saying that upon careful consideration they will be interviewing more qualified candidates. (it was just a cut and paste rejection form) wow you would think they certainly would be looking for pilots ! i have also sent resumes to other parts of the world... macau, hong kong, tajikistan, asghanistan, taiwan etc where supposedly they are hurting for pilots and so far nobody has even replied bothered to acknowledge receipt of emails. the only job offers i get are for flight instructors. so i guess im good enough to teach people to fly for an airline but not good enough to fly in an airline myself
there are 200,000 faa licensed pilots with an atp or commercial and more than 1500 hours with a first class medical or could get a 1st class medical and there are roughly 66,000 pilot positions at the airlines. thats 3 pilots for every job. the airlines say they will be hiring roughly 4000 pilots year and 8000 new atp licenses were issued last year ! after my recent experience in searching for an airline job i really dont see a shortage or lack of pilots. btw i hold an faa atp sel ses mel mes, b737 ce500 a320, flight dispatcher, agi igi, cfi me ia, flight navigator and flight eng turbojet written passed, 2800 total 104 me, 1st class medical, secret security clearance etc etc
here is my 2 cents on "pilot shortage"
i sent my resume' 3 times to silver airways (to hr email address) and never even got an acknowledgement. last month i sent her another email asking for a simple reply just to know that the email address was good or perhaps i needed to apply online thru their website etc... again nothing. come on, silver is offering 12 grand in bonuses and they dont reply?
yesterday i saw "empire airlines" (never heard of them) were looking for atr pilots throughout the country. well shreveport is cheaper to live in than newark ha ha so i applied for that position and i got back an email the next day saying that upon careful consideration they will be interviewing more qualified candidates. (it was just a cut and paste rejection form) wow you would think they certainly would be looking for pilots ! i have also sent resumes to other parts of the world... macau, hong kong, tajikistan, asghanistan, taiwan etc where supposedly they are hurting for pilots and so far nobody has even replied bothered to acknowledge receipt of emails. the only job offers i get are for flight instructors. so i guess im good enough to teach people to fly for an airline but not good enough to fly in an airline myself
there are 200,000 faa licensed pilots with an atp or commercial and more than 1500 hours with a first class medical or could get a 1st class medical and there are roughly 66,000 pilot positions at the airlines. thats 3 pilots for every job. the airlines say they will be hiring roughly 4000 pilots year and 8000 new atp licenses were issued last year ! after my recent experience in searching for an airline job i really dont see a shortage or lack of pilots. btw i hold an faa atp sel ses mel mes, b737 ce500 a320, flight dispatcher, agi igi, cfi me ia, flight navigator and flight eng turbojet written passed, 2800 total 104 me, 1st class medical, secret security clearance etc etc
07-24-2014, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
highly disagree. especially when you consider that they could get more advanced shoulder fired rockets
Attempting to equate crude RPG's that can barely hit something close range and stationary with advanced anti aircraft guided missile systems is quite a leap.
Of course that's a threat, but it has nothing to do with RPG's.
07-24-2014, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RMWRIGHT
just like when they spend more money by hiring foreign nurses i.e. bonuses, free tickets back to their home country etc.
here is my 2 cents on "pilot shortage"
i sent my resume' 3 times to silver airways (to hr email address) and never even got an acknowledgement. last month i sent her another email asking for a simple reply just to know that the email address was good or perhaps i needed to apply online thru their website etc... again nothing. come on, silver is offering 12 grand in bonuses and they dont reply?
yesterday i saw "empire airlines" (never heard of them) were looking for atr pilots throughout the country. well shreveport is cheaper to live in than newark ha ha so i applied for that position and i got back an email the next day saying that upon careful consideration they will be interviewing more qualified candidates. (it was just a cut and paste rejection form) wow you would think they certainly would be looking for pilots ! i have also sent resumes to other parts of the world... macau, hong kong, tajikistan, asghanistan, taiwan etc where supposedly they are hurting for pilots and so far nobody has even replied bothered to acknowledge receipt of emails. the only job offers i get are for flight instructors. so i guess im good enough to teach people to fly for an airline but not good enough to fly in an airline myself there are 200,000 faa licensed pilots with an atp or commercial and more than 1500 hours with a first class medical or could get a 1st class medical and there are roughly 66,000 pilot positions at the airlines. thats 3 pilots for every job. the airlines say they will be hiring roughly 4000 pilots year and 8000 new atp licenses were issued last year ! after my recent experience in searching for an airline job i really dont see a shortage or lack of pilots. btw i hold an faa atp sel ses mel mes, b737 ce500 a320, flight dispatcher, agi igi, cfi me ia, flight navigator and flight eng turbojet written passed, 2800 total 104 me, 1st class medical, secret security clearance etc etc
here is my 2 cents on "pilot shortage"
i sent my resume' 3 times to silver airways (to hr email address) and never even got an acknowledgement. last month i sent her another email asking for a simple reply just to know that the email address was good or perhaps i needed to apply online thru their website etc... again nothing. come on, silver is offering 12 grand in bonuses and they dont reply?
yesterday i saw "empire airlines" (never heard of them) were looking for atr pilots throughout the country. well shreveport is cheaper to live in than newark ha ha so i applied for that position and i got back an email the next day saying that upon careful consideration they will be interviewing more qualified candidates. (it was just a cut and paste rejection form) wow you would think they certainly would be looking for pilots ! i have also sent resumes to other parts of the world... macau, hong kong, tajikistan, asghanistan, taiwan etc where supposedly they are hurting for pilots and so far nobody has even replied bothered to acknowledge receipt of emails. the only job offers i get are for flight instructors. so i guess im good enough to teach people to fly for an airline but not good enough to fly in an airline myself
there are 200,000 faa licensed pilots with an atp or commercial and more than 1500 hours with a first class medical or could get a 1st class medical and there are roughly 66,000 pilot positions at the airlines. thats 3 pilots for every job. the airlines say they will be hiring roughly 4000 pilots year and 8000 new atp licenses were issued last year ! after my recent experience in searching for an airline job i really dont see a shortage or lack of pilots. btw i hold an faa atp sel ses mel mes, b737 ce500 a320, flight dispatcher, agi igi, cfi me ia, flight navigator and flight eng turbojet written passed, 2800 total 104 me, 1st class medical, secret security clearance etc etc
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