That analogy really doesn't work here. That in essence is saying on the aviation side you'd be using a private pilot to do a commercial/atp pilot's job. No, your analogy is very much off.

I think you're missing the point. Or you're intentionally trying to redirect the conversation.

The point is not that it would be like using a private pilot to do the work of an ATP or biology majors to perform surgeries. The point is that the people who want to lower the standard(s) for doing each of these jobs, (be they Airline or Hospital executives) would be asking permission to compromise public safety simply as a shameless and self-interested effort to maximize profits and THEIR BONUS CHECKS!!!! It's a ruse!!

Can you really tell us that this consortium of airline executives are seeking a rule change to lower the requirement to act as a pilot, under Part 121 simply out of a benevolent concern that places like Fort Dodge, Kansas may lose airline service?!?!? Reverend Bedford, J.O., et al. don't give a DAMN about how far the people of RedAss, Minnesota have to drive in order to catch a flight! It's about M.O.N.E.Y.!!!

I don't think its off at all.

Student = Intern
Private = Resident
Commercial = Attending
ATP = Fellow

Maybe because Allegiant has gained the reputation they deserve and no one is willing to bet their career or life.

i just found an ad for the ctp (the course required to take atp me written after aug 1st) allatps is offering it with training given at higher power aviation. just $4995. im very surprised so inexpensive. 6 hours in sim , 4 hours in ftd and 30 hours ground school given by atp pilot with at least 2 years experience in 121 ops. i expected course to be 10 to 12 grand. by the way still waiting to find out whether canadian atp license holders will be required to take this course or not before taking the atp faa conversion written test. if not, would be a great loop hole for those who have the faa cpl and 1500 hours, , go to canada convert to canadian cpl/ifr/me (its easy) then take the samara/saron written (its their atp test) then the check ride. then take the 40 question atp usa conversion test
and now you have 2 atp licenses for about the price of one and you have bypassed the ctp and save 5 grand !

I'd bump those up a bit.

Student = College Freshman
Private = College Sophomore
Commercial = College Junior
ATP = Bachleor's Degree in Biology/Pre-Med that can texhnically be called "doctor".

The rest can be measured in the amount and type of experience.

The majority will just do the written as part of 121 initial training.

Everyone is blowing this thing out of proportion. The airlines already have training programs ready to go for this.

Now, if you don't want to work at an airline then that is another story.

Really? Because a certain DO at a certain company based in the midwest seems to think that since all these people graduating from college have student loans, they surely must have money left over to pay for a training program before they show up for initial...

Would this be Gojet?

The majority will just do the written as part of 121 initial training.

Everyone is blowing this thing out of proportion. The airlines already have training programs ready to go for this.

Now, if you don't want to work at an airline then that is another story.


i agree,
i wonder how this will affect foreign students coming to usa for atp license/rating and now have to pay another 5 grand?