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word302 07-29-2014 10:42 PM

I am of the opinion that the regionals will soon drop the requirement for the written and provide the CTP as part of new hire training.

blaine 07-30-2014 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by beech1980 (Post 1694534)
LOL! I wish I was not serious or accurate! Like I said, go tally up all the costs yourself.. I was dumb founded as you are. They hit you up for insurance at the tune of $1300 per semester at Riddle. It keeps adding up.

:eek: I'm still in shock man. Who in their right mind would even consider an aviation degree and than go become a pilot. Heck, for that kind of money I'd think you could nearly become a doctor. What a crying shame. Next time I hear a pilot say he has a Riddle degree, I'm gonna buy the guys coffee for him and than slap him in the back of the head.:eek:

tom11011 07-30-2014 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1695090)
First it is going to be much harder to build that 1500 in the future than it used to be. A lot of those time building jobs have been slowly going away, and regional airlines are working on agreements with 135 carriers and flight schools to send Pro Pilot graduates to these companies to build time.

Flight instructing is still a great and time honored way to build the time. It's how it used to be done. There was a time when 250 hour pilots just were not hired at regional airlines, not all that long ago. In the 90's, regional pilots were coming in with ATPs.

The smart pilot is going to go to college and get an unrelated degree, something with teeth in the real world. Further, this pilot will get most of their certificates and ratings part 61 at the local FBO. The FBO this pilot purchases their ratings from will also likely be the same place that gives the pilot their first job as flight instructor. This is a time honored way of doing this, I don't see where any change needs to occur at all here.

The pilot will need the extra 500 hours or whatever, but in trade he will not have to live with the extreme debt that comes from a program like ERAU.

As far as the ATP written and ATP are concerned, the airlines will supply both with very minor tweaks to their training program.

How Regional Airlines might deal with new ATP written requirements | Airline Pilot Info

Twin Wasp 07-30-2014 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by ClarenceOver (Post 1695074)
Yeah but if the airlines just shelled out 20k for the course and plan to spend another 100k to get you typed in their airplane i dont think they will want you to use a seminole. Nor will a corporate flight department that just spent big bucks to get you your atp. atps are not going to be a dime a dozen after this rule is in full effect.


As pointed out, ATP/Higher Power say their program will cost $4999 and they're making a profit on that figure. And if you think an airline spends 100k training a new hire you need to come down to earth.

Packrat 07-30-2014 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 1694935)
Or you could take that money and spend it on a medical degree or spend half of the money for a top flight MBA program and you'll be making what that widebody captain makes at age 30.

Now does it look like a good investment?

That's kind of what I was getting at. Remember that's just for a CHANCE at someday getting that Captain seat.


Originally Posted by ClarenceOver (Post 1695080)
I am not a cfi or military and i havn't spent a penny on aviation building my time.

Flying Daddy's airplane is very cost effective.


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 1695144)
As pointed out, ATP/Higher Power say their program will cost $4999 and they're making a profit on that figure. And if you think an airline spends 100k training a new hire you need to come down to earth.

Which is just another example of why C.O. has no clue about the pilot PROFESSION.

Std Deviation 07-30-2014 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by blaine (Post 1695103)
Heck, for that kind of money I'd think you could nearly become a doctor.

I could have become a doctor too if it wasn't for that science thing...:D

Packrat 07-30-2014 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Std Deviation (Post 1695216)
I could have become a doctor too if it wasn't for that science thing...:D

Or the grades thing. Or the testing (GRE/MEDCAT) thing. Or the carving up cadavers thing.

:eek:

Flightcap 07-30-2014 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1695240)
Or the grades thing. Or the testing (GRE/MEDCAT) thing. Or the carving up cadavers thing.

:eek:

Or the residency thing. Older brother who is an MD had a few 48-hour and many 24-hour stretches without sleep during his four-year residency. And his kid would point at the hospital and say "That's where Daddy lives!"

Flying Ninja 07-30-2014 12:04 PM

I wonder if this has anything to do with the FAA change of heart:

Boeing Announces Ab Initio Pilot Training - AVweb flash Article

Std Deviation 07-30-2014 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Flying Ninja (Post 1695418)
I wonder if this has anything to do with the FAA change of heart:

Boeing Announces Ab Initio Pilot Training - AVweb flash Article

Conveniently missing is who is going to pay for the $100,000-150,000 program.


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