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Cruz5350 07-25-2014 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by dl773 (Post 1691892)
1. Eliminate the Sim requirements.
2. Keep 1500
3. Require a minimum combined experience in the cockpit (say, 5000 hours)
4. Require maximum total combined age at the controls (say, 120 years).

The pilots of 3407 didn't even have a combined 1000 hours experience in the Q400. The above, combined with the new 1000 PIC requirements, should be enough.

I def think there should be a min time requirement no more green on green type of waivers and some form of combined min experience like you said. I've flown green on green it was incredibly dangerous and I can't believe the FAA signed off on it.

TallFlyer 07-25-2014 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by dl773 (Post 1691892)
4. Require maximum total combined age at the controls (say, 120 years).

Assuming Age 65, this provision would mean that you'd have to be at least 56 to be a 121 FO.

Aside from that, the combined total time, time in type, and age is an interesting concept.

blastoff 07-25-2014 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 1692050)
Assuming Age 65, this provision would mean that you'd have to be at least 56 to be a 121 FO.

Aside from that, the combined total time, time in type, and age is an interesting concept.

Math. You're doing it wrong.

CBreezy 07-26-2014 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1692085)
Math. You're doing it wrong.

I laughed out loud. Thank you.

They already have something like the max combined age in that if you are over 60, the FO isn't permitted to be over 60. I think that covers it.

I think "green on green" needs a change but I don't know that total hour mandates are the way to do it. I don't have another solution, but reserve staffing would be an absolute nightmare.

Slick111 07-26-2014 07:31 AM

Analogy.
 
Imagine a consortium of lower-end hospitals and medical clinics across the country whining that they are having a hard time attracting doctors to practice at their hospital for $20,000/year.

Now imagine that those same hospitals and clinics want to lower the requirements for their employees to be able to perform surgeries such that only a bachelors degree in biology or anatomy is needed.

Then imagine that this these hospitals and clinics are not required to tell their patients which of their surgeons are actually doctors and which are merely 22 year-old biology majors.

Anyone see a problem with this arrangement?

tom11011 07-26-2014 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1692330)
Imagine a consortium of lower-end hospitals and medical clinics across the country whining that they are having a hard time attracting doctors to practice at their hospital for $20,000/year.

Now imagine that those same hospitals and clinics want to lower the requirements for their employees to be able to perform surgeries such that only a bachelors degree in biology or anatomy is needed.

Then imagine that this these hospitals and clinics are not required to tell their patients which of their surgeons are actually doctors and which are merely 22 year-old biology majors.

Anyone see a problem with this arrangement?

Well said.

USMCFLYR 07-26-2014 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1692330)
Imagine a consortium of lower-end hospitals and medical clinics across the country whining that they are having a hard time attracting doctors to practice at their hospital for $20,000/year.

Now imagine that those same hospitals and clinics want to lower the requirements for their employees to be able to perform surgeries such that only a bachelors degree in biology or anatomy is needed.

Then imagine that this these hospitals and clinics are not required to tell their patients which of their surgeons are actually doctors and which are merely 22 year-old biology majors.

Anyone see a problem with this arrangement?

And imagine if you could go from Zero to Surgeon in only a few months!:eek:
Thank goodness times are changing.

BaronRouge380 07-26-2014 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1692430)
And imagine if you could go from Zero to Surgeon in only a few months!:eek:
Thank goodness times are changing.

Yea, but hopefully we are not going back to "zero to surgeon in a few months", that's the challenge here.

Packrat 07-26-2014 11:16 AM

When places like Allegiant have 3 month upgrades, it says a lot about the state of the industry.

johnso29 07-26-2014 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1691522)
Historically most incapacitation's have been in the 45 to 55 age range.


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1691625)
You are correct, Sir.

Is incapacitation the only issue to be concerned about?


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