Oh for ****'s sake. I almost never post, but read a lot here to keep a finger on the pulse of opinions. This thread right here is already or is going to become the highlight reel of why we have some of the problem that we do.

The truth of the matter is, the mainlines employ social engineering scientists to predict what combination of threats/carrots could be reasonably expected to achieve the lowest cost based on the specific demographics of the pilot groups. I'm sure most have heard of "big data/metadata" work google and facebook does for advertising purposes; your big companies with big labor costs do the same thing on a smaller scale.

Infighting/exfighting is what they want! All it really does is create more data so they can get just a little bit better at tightening the screws. Denying jumpseats is just prejudicial and petty because there are no 100% votes, and the old days of applying pressure on the group so they'll go out and break the kneecaps of the sellouts are gone.

If you're a "let's get ours and pull up the ladder," then shame on you, but you probably wouldn't care about my opinion anyway.

If you punish an entire group because of their majority vote, then you fit the definition of a biased bigot.

If you feel like your calling in life was to instigate animosity instead of fostering solutions by starting threads like these, you might as well exchange your line-pilot card for a management badge, because you have become part of the problem.

 

You voted, you chose your path. 50-100k per year flying at a regional while you wait for your number to come up at AA isn't enough? The PSA guys had lives and careers to think about to and I'm sure yours was not high on their list. Easier to find a job when you have one. After the furlough and people desperately need jobs at least PSA and PDT will be hiring

 

Seriously guys, jumpseat karma is REAL. If you don't want to get home to see your kids or like me make my tee time the next day then don't play this game. Denying another pilot a ride home because of who he works for and the way a majority of pilots of that group voted is shameful. I have never thought ONCE about denying my jumpseat to anybody, and I have had almost every regional sit up front with me.

 

To date I have denied 11 jumpseats to PSA pilots. I even bid to make sure I fly into their hubs just in the hopes of having such an occasion. Don't play the "get home to families" card on us. You raped Eagle and the rest of the industry once already and just did it again today. The joy I derive in giving a little of it back to you scumbags is boundless.

 

This guy for president.

*doublebrofist*

 

If you'll entertain an honest question... I haven't been around long enough to know: what were the circumstances of the previous time?

 

You were bullied as a child, weren't you? Vertically challenged, perhaps? Sounds like Napoleon Syndrome.

 

You two clowns remind me of Jim Carey and Jeff Daniels.

 

Keep up the good work!!

 

I don't work as a pilot at a regional, as a matter of fact I'm only a fresh commercial pilot. But I did work in station management for a long time, and nothing good came from denying jumpseats.

The envoy pilots will one day need a PSA jumpseat, there is probably Envoy crews that use PSA at this very moment to go home and see their families.

Also think of newly hired Envoy and PSA pilots who have no bone in the fight because they are brand new to the industry. Are they at fault too? Of course not, people need to go home, and see their families, why would you take that away from someone?