Regional: JUMPSEAT WAR NEAR
#52
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It's a common courtesy to say hi to the crew and ask for permission. Don't let these dorks online change that. You always want to show appreciation if not riding on your own metal. If the captain denies you, then say thanks for your time and get on the next flight to work or home. Contact your jumpseat committee. Most eagle pilots aren't stupid enough to start a jumpseat war but there are a few exceptions. Neither are PSA pilots stupid enough to retaliate due to one or two denials which I have yet to hear about.
#54
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Don't play expert on guidelines and procedures that you do not know. What you are going to tell me that you know SABRE better than people who are trained to use it every day? And that you know procedures from other departments which you've never worked? Sure. You as a captain bottom line cannot deny a non-rev a seat in the back. What are you going to do? Write up a seat? We know that trick well sir, we will call MX to fix it don't worry.
Or are you going to trick SABRE with priorities? You're smart enough to do that?
You will need a jump seat one day, and a PSA pilot will give it to you, just like a MESA , Air Wisconsin , or Republic will.
#55
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I knew never to leave anyone behind, and in my side of the business we are getting undercut and underbid by every company in the book. You my friend write "procedural guidelines and legalities" as a way to cover up the fact that you basically no idea.
Don't play expert on guidelines and procedures that you do not know. What you are going to tell me that you know SABRE better than people who are trained to use it every day? And that you know procedures from other departments which you've never worked? Sure. You as a captain bottom line cannot deny a non-rev a seat in the back. What are you going to do? Write up a seat? We know that trick well sir, we will call MX to fix it don't worry.
Or are you going to trick SABRE with priorities? You're smart enough to do that?
You will need a jump seat one day, and a PSA pilot will give it to you, just like a MESA , Air Wisconsin , or Republic will.
Don't play expert on guidelines and procedures that you do not know. What you are going to tell me that you know SABRE better than people who are trained to use it every day? And that you know procedures from other departments which you've never worked? Sure. You as a captain bottom line cannot deny a non-rev a seat in the back. What are you going to do? Write up a seat? We know that trick well sir, we will call MX to fix it don't worry.
Or are you going to trick SABRE with priorities? You're smart enough to do that?
You will need a jump seat one day, and a PSA pilot will give it to you, just like a MESA , Air Wisconsin , or Republic will.
Let me get this straight... You're saying that the you, not the flight crew is authorized to call MX and get them to repair the A/C?
#57
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Once the write up is in the book, we can expedite a call to MOC, get it taken care of for operational need. When the A/C is at the gate its our aircraft remember that. We along with SOC, MOC and dispatch and the captain work together to make everything happen.
Operational need can get a lot of things done. But to be fair the captain does have to write it up first. And this can only be done in hubs where available line tech's are available.
But if the seat is deemed INOP it must be in the book from what I understand.
The only true way I guess a captain could mess with this would be weight and balance. But he may screw other non-revs with this, because its still by priority.
#60
Absolutely , managers manage situations. A simple call to MOC and the mechanic is sent over. It does not take very long to check a seat.
Once the write up is in the book, we can expedite a call to MOC, get it taken care of for operational need. When the A/C is at the gate its our aircraft remember that. We along with SOC, MOC and dispatch and the captain work together to make everything happen.
Operational need can get a lot of things done. But to be fair the captain does have to write it up first. And this can only be done in hubs where available line tech's are available.
But if the seat is deemed INOP it must be in the book from what I understand.
The only true way I guess a captain could mess with this would be weight and balance. But he may screw other non-revs with this, because its still by priority.
Once the write up is in the book, we can expedite a call to MOC, get it taken care of for operational need. When the A/C is at the gate its our aircraft remember that. We along with SOC, MOC and dispatch and the captain work together to make everything happen.
Operational need can get a lot of things done. But to be fair the captain does have to write it up first. And this can only be done in hubs where available line tech's are available.
But if the seat is deemed INOP it must be in the book from what I understand.
The only true way I guess a captain could mess with this would be weight and balance. But he may screw other non-revs with this, because its still by priority.
Easy enought, let's first...
1. Sent actual amount of fuel
2. Send TPS request for the most restrictive runway...that's it...system is locked and the station or SOC cant change it.
Boom..flight restricted, leaving Non Rev and rev pax behind.
I don't care, I still get paid by the hour.
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